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------------------------------------------------------------- Reti Club Vote Chess Guidelines:Our vote chess games are 3 days per move: 1) Do not vote for moves which have not been suggested in comments. There are NO exceptions to this rule. If the move you like has not been suggested then suggest it. 2) First 2 days = suggest and discuss. Final 24 hours = vote. Occasionally there are exceptions to this rule. However, DO NOT vote on the first day of our turn unless I have posted the "Vote" sign. ( Looks like this ) 3) Do not post a comment containing the current votes, or a comment that you have already voted, prior to the 24 hour mark as this would encourage early voting. -------------------------------------------------------------Complying with these guidelines promotes fairness and enables us to provide quality instructional group games for you and other members. Please do not interfere with what we are trying to accomplish. We are doing this for YOU.-------------------------------------------------------------We play variations arising from: 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 or 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 In order to make the best use of our VC games to learn about the Reti we avoid transpositions into other openings, ergo;We DO NOT play an early d2-d4 as that would transpose to a different opening system. -------------------------------------------------------------Treat your teammates with courtesy and respect.-------------------------------------------------------------You must submit a comment in this forum indicating that you understand and agree with these policies or you will be removed from our Vote Chess games.----------------------------------------------------------- The following members have agreed previosly: BallCrusher28 Greenatic voidpointercast mamciek jamajaama ----------------------------------------------------------- Honorable Members MrPawn Rewokatrat xenophon1 Pacific_Victory -----------------------------------------------------------

References RECOMMENDED READING click on a book to view the example games in that book ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Latest The Modernized Reti - Adrien Demuth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Reti Beginner 1982 Reti Opening 1.Nf3 d5 Viacheslav Osnos An old book closer to the source. Lots of example games. 1988 How to Play the Reti Eric Schiller The evolution of the Reti through historical games. 1993 Winning With the Reti Opening Smith & Hall The primary variations 1998 easy guide to the Reti Opening Angus Dunnington Excellent for Reti Newbees ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the Advanced Reti Player 1999 Hypermodern Opening Repertoire for White Eric Schiller A repertoire based on the Reti and English 2004 the dynamic Reti Nigel Davies A repertoire not always the Reti 2010 starting out: the Reti Neil McDonald Not for Reti beginners. A personal repertoire. Many omissions! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Additional 2006 Secrets of Opening Surprises vol 4 chapter 8 - Following Smyslov and Reti Adrian Mikhalchishin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Videos Reti Opening Mastermind with IM Milovan Ratkovic Part 1 Part 2 Articles Réti Gambit [A11] - Davies - March 2010 Flank Openings Kramer's Gambit 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e4 Saint Emilions Home Page Excellent article "Understanding the Reti" wikipedia The first twenty-five pages of Schiller's "Hypermodern Opening Repertoire for White" available as a .pdf file Return to Group Index & FAQ

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Welcome to 1 Nf3_c4 Reti Thank you for your interest in the Reti Opening. The purpose of this club is to provide members with an understanding of the Reti Opening 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 and hypermodern chess. It is important to understand what IS and what ISN'T the Reti Opening please review these two brief articles in Wikipedia. Réti OpeningZukertort Opening Click the topic "Reti References" for a list of books. Click a book cover to open a public book study club for that book which contains links to database versions of the games. Even without the book, playing through these games will help you become familiar with the variations. We play Team Vote Chess for it's learning value in order to provide members with first hand experience playing The Reti Opening, sharing our knowledge and experience. New members are encouraged to join our group games. Feel free to ask questions and make suggestions. New members should review our "Team Vote Chess Guidelines". Feel free to use the Club Forum to ask questions, submit topics and post your Reti games for review by club members. Enjoy the club.

The Reti as an Idea The philosophy of the Reti is for White to control the center from the flanks with pieces rather than by occupying the center with pawns. Therefor, White employs the double fianchetto and holds back the center pawns d & e. First, let's clear up a common misconception; 1.Nf3 is classified by ECO as a Reti. This is somewhat misleading because after 1.Nf3 the game could evolve into many different openings depending on what is played next. Many refer to 1.Nf3 as a "Zukertort" because Zukertort would sometimes start his games with 1.Nf3. But he would usually transpose into the popular openings of his era. He did not develop a deep opening system based on 1.Nf3. Richard Reti DID develop a deep opening system based on 1.Nf3 which lead to the evolution of several different openings, and hypermodern chess. This has resulted in some confusion about the nomenclature of some hypermodern openings. 1.Nf3 is so named by ECO to honor Reti for his contributions, but it is not enough to define an opening system. 1.Nf3 followed by 2.d4 is not a Reti. That's a Queen's pawn opening. 1.Nf3 followed by 2.b3 is a Nimzo-Larsen Attack. 1.Nf3 followed by 2.e4 is a Kings pawn opening. You get the drift... 1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 is a Reti IF White plays a subsequent c2-c4. In this club we play the Reti as an independent opening system. We do not play d4 transpositions. --------------------------------- Richrd Reti was looking for an alternative to controlling the center via occupation by pawns. 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 is the principle Reti mainline. 1.Nf3 provides center control by discouraging 1...e5 due to 2.Nxe5, so if Black wants a pawn in the center that leaves 1...d5. About twice as often, Black will avoid commitment by playing 1...Nf6 when 2.c4 will then take the game firmly into Reti territory, threatening Black's center control from the very start and forcing Black to decide whether to fortify the d-pawn with A) 2...c6 the "Reti Slav" B) 2...e6 - the "Neo-Catalan" or to counter with C) 2...dxc4 the "Reti Accepted" or to avoid immediate contact with D) 2...d4 the "Reti Advance" Variation aka "Reti Benoni" These are the four main variations. Any other second move by Black is inferior. There is more, of course, but this is the basic idea.. <--- typical Reti formation ----------------------------------------------------

Adrien DemuthRecent Retis ----------------------------------------------------------- 1.Nf3; 2.c4; 2...Nf6?!vs Stolniceanu 2...dxc4vs Dragnev vs Banusz 2...d4vs Zhigalkovs Romanovvs Sovs Duda 2...c6vs Reshefvs Belovvs Chatalbashevvs Loetschervs Yeohvs Gretarssonvs Loiseauvs Morrisvs Cheng vs Nasshan 2...e6vs Halkiasvs Lazarevvs Zilkavs Aubryvs Zumsande (trans to Neo-Catalan 6.d4)vs Lillo Castay 2...g6vs Loiseauvs Puccini (trans to English Sym) -----------------------------------------------------------

d4 in the Reti - A Statistical Perspective The most frequently asked question in our vote chess games is' "Can we play d4 now?"In order to try to answer that question and also to provide some insight into when and how d4 is played in the Reti, I have prepared the following statistical presentation. As a database I used the 758 example games referenced in the book "Reti Opening 1Nf3 d5" by Viacheslav Osnos 1982. I chose the Osnos book because it is an older book and it presents the basic Reti uncluttered by modern variants such as Delchev's "Modern Reti" and Kramnik's Repertoire. I also chose it because of the number of example games it contains; 758 compared to 265 in Dunnington's book, which presents very much the same material and variations as Osnos. I applied the same statistical study to the games in both books and the percentages agree very closely. Of course many of the referenced games are in fact the same games in both books. But here I am presenting only the statistics from the Osnos book. --------------------------- The question has been asked, "Is d4 part of the Reti?" In responce to that question I found that in 418 (55%) of the 758 referenced games in Osnos' book, d4 was NOT played AT ANY TIME during those games. Therefore the move d4 would not be considered an integral part of the Reti Opening. Of the 340 games in which d4 was played; the d4 square was reached 178 times from the d3 square and d2-d4 was played in one stroke 162 times. In 65 games (8.5%) d4 was not played until after move 20 and on one occasion it was played as late as move 65. Games in which d4 was played at moves 1 thru 6 were found to be games added to the book for purposes of comparison and transpositions. The earlier d4 is played, the more likely it will transpose into another opening. .The number of times d4 was played at moves 7 thru 20 are shown in the graph below. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From the book, "Masters of the Chessboard" published 1930 after Reti died in 1929. My System of Opening "If white opens the game by moving a center pawn two squares and black replies symmetrically, White will try to turn his opening advantage to account by selecting Black's fixed center pawn as the object of attack, and thus bring pressure to bear on his opponent's position or open up lines to his advantage. As we have seen, that is the real meaning of the Ruy Lopez and Queen's Gambit. Conversely, all the methods for which Black strives for equalization against 1.e4 or 1.d4 have this in common, that they make White's middle pawn the point of attack. In the e-pawn openings, d5 is thus the liberating move for Black, as a rule, and in the d-pawn openings, it is c5 or e5.By this reasoning, we have already brought out before that 1....e5 or 1...d5 is probably not the best reply to 1.e4 or 1.d4 respectively, as they at once offer White a point of attack. This view is shared by many chessmasters today. By this time, we realize that it is possible to doubt whether 1.e4 or 1.d4 are the best opening moves for White, for we have seen above that those center pawns are the very ones which will become the target of Black's operations in order to obtain equalization.But it follows from this that no matter how many good features the moves 1.e4 and 1.d4 may have, as far as gaining freedom of movement, dominating the center, and opening up the game for the other pieces are concerned, nevertheless they have also a weakness, namely, that they themselves are a point of attack for the opponent. Of course, this is no sufficient reason for condemning these moves, since it remains questionable whether one could find a better opening system, that is, a system which offers similar advantages and lesser disadvantages. Nevertheless, after realizing that the traditional opening moves are not altogether beyond criticism, it is the duty of the thinking chessplayer to occupy himself with the problem of finding a better opening system. As the opening is in general a struggle for domination in the center, the characteristic feature of every such new system will be a desire to direct pressure against the center without fixing the middle pawns too soon.The natural opening move in such a system is 1.Nf3. The move directs pressure against the center, prevents e5 and keeps open almost all possibilities for the first player. The obstruction of the f-pawn is of little import, as this pawn should rarely, and only with the greatest caution, be drawn into the conflict in the center, on the account of the weakening of its own king's position. As the reply ...e5 is impossible, the adherent of the old views thereupon plays 1...d5, whereby White really plays a kind of Indian Defense in the opening move. For this reason, Kmoch calls this system the Indian Attack.But the student should not allow this designation to lead him into applying the principles of the Indian Defense to the Indian Attack. The essential difference lies in the fact that Black plays the Indian Defense with the desire of obtaining equalization. The first player, on the other hand, chooses a definite opening system in order to turn the definite opening advantage to account, and to improve his chances. Now it is clear to any experienced chess player, as a matter of course, that an attack which will bring an advantage, when justified by the fact the first player is a tempo ahead, may be ill-advised and produce the reverse effect, when the development is as yet insufficient.In the beginning of 1923, the Indian attacking system of this kind were introduced into master play. One of them, deriving from Nimzowitsch, is intended to continue the pressure against the weakened point e4 after 1.Nf3 by 2.b3, combined with Bb2. Nimzowitsch, who is to be credited with working the best method of the Indian Defense, has, as we shall see,applied the methods of defense to attack.But what is good for the defense, what is good for obtaining equalization, is not suited to winning an advantage. The tendency, expressed in this system, to attack the opponent's weak points in order to establish strong posts there oneself as advance guards, and on the other hand to leave the opponent's strong points untouched, leads to mutual blocking and a completely closed position, in which the advantage of the opening move hardly counts any longer. That is the real reason why this system is especially desirable for the second player, as we have already explained elsewhere, but as an attacking system, it would hardly become standard. In order to derive advantage from the opening move, one must play with a system which does not allow the second player to bring about a closed position without disadvantage in space, nor to place immovable bulwarks in the center. Not the weak points,therefore, as in the defense, but the strong points, that are to become bulwarks, must be brought under fire. It is upon this idea that the opening system introduced by the author of this book is based.After 1.Nf3..d5, White directs the attack not against the weak e5 point, but against d5, continuing with 2.c4,g3, and Bg2. In the nomenclature of the theory of openings, this opening system has been given the author's name, in accordance with the suggestion of Serbian master Vukovic. In addition, there is also the designation Zukertort Opening, which is much more general, in fact, as it is characterized by the first move Nf3. Kmoch, who is of the opinion that openings should not be named after persons, for both the systems discussed here, the designations "Queen's Indian Attack" and "King's Indian Attack". Just as in the case of the Indian Defense, we believe that here to it will soon appear how superfluous these names are. While in defense the King's Indian is dying out, in the attack the Queen's Indian is hardly played anymore!By far the best defense against this attacking system, which Tartakower named "Opening of the Future", is still to be found in the counterattack first employed by Lasker in New York 1924. To be sure, Lasker's method is probably held in greater esteem because of the repute of its creator and the success he has won with it, than because of its true value, as the following may serve to show." ---Richard Reti

1 Nf3_c4 Reti Vote Chess Guidelines "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men." ---Douglas Bader "Every game is defined by it's rules. If there's no rules, there's no game." --- wormrose updated 12/4/2020 This group is dedicated to playing the Reti Opening in Vote Chess. It is the only opening we play. In this club we play the Reti as an independent opening; not as a transpositional tool to other opening systems. One Rule Do not vote for a move unless it has been suggested in comments in the discussion forum and has not been refuted. If your preferred move has not been suggested then suggest it before you vote for it. There are NO exceptions to this rule. Offenders will receive one warning and if it re-occurs they will be removed from the game. One Suggestion It is recommended that members withhold their votes until the clock reads 24 Hours or less, so as to make the best use of our three day time control. There ARE exceptions to this; too many to list them all. Teammates should vote when they feel it is appropriate. Please use good judgement and remember this is a team effort. Prior to 24 hours on the clock; please do not submit a comment that you have voted early or a comment which contains the current votes. If you vote early there is no need to tell us. Just do it. Chess engines are NOT allowed in 0ur vote chess games. Archived computer games are also NOT allowed. Please avoid mentioning computer analysis in our vote game forums. Moves can be submitted from experience, books, articles, videos or from chess databases which can be found at various websites. If you see a foolish move or blunder being suggested by another team member please be courteous, respectful and constructive in your appraisal of the move. Let us judge the moves - not the people who suggest them.If you get madand decide to leave the game or if you should accidentally click on [Leave Game] you will see a confirmation pop up which will give you a second chance to stay in the game (suggested). If you still chose to leave; that action is irreversible. Please show respect for your team mates and keep the language clean. Enjoy the games!

1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Na3 What do the books say about 3.Na3 ? 1982 Viacheslav Osnos - "The idea of this rarely played move consists of creating pressure on e5, having at some stage played Nxc4." 1998 Angus Dunnington - "I prefer 3.Na3, not only because it is in the spirit of the Reti, but also because White is then regaining the pawn on his own terms, as the prepared pattern of development is relevant only to this opening." 1999 Eric Schiller - " White loses time regaining the pawn via 3.Na3, but once it is captured, White enjoys strong knights at f3 and c4. Looking at the diagram, we see that White has a significant lead in development. If we mentally remove the Black c-pawn we see that White can later occupy the center with d4 and e4, while Black has nothing more than a potential, and difficult to achieve, ...e5. 2004 Nigel Davies - "...neither 3.Na3 nor 3.Qa4+ give White anything and the roads to equality are quite well mapped out." 2010 Neil McDonald - "White can only count on a very minimal advantage after 3.Na3 or 3.Qa4+." 2018 Adrien Demuth - "3.Na3 a6! 4.Nxc4 b5! Unfortunately e5 is not safe, and we have to find an ugly square for our knight."It seems a shame that the most recent books about the Reti have chosen to disregard this important line. Look in any database to see the statistics for 3.e3 and 3.Na3 are nearly identical. The comment by Davies has been disproved in databases. a) 3...a6 4.Nxc4 b5 a1) 5.Nce5 "Looks agressive but allows Black to continue the chase with 5...f6 6. Nd3 e5. The knight is a liability on d3, the pawn on e4 cannot be comfortably defended and d4 is already under Black's control." Akbaev vs Bezgodov a2) 5.Ne3 is best Danailov vs Bernard "The knight is surprisingly useful here. It is certainly not in the way because White's hypermodern bishops are heading for g2 and b2, so there is no need to free the center pawns just yet. In the following game White managed to put his unconventional knight to good use. First both side completed their development: 5.Ne3 Bb7 6.g3 Nd7 7.Bg2 Ngf6 8.O-O e6 9. b3 c5 10.Bb2 Be7 11.Rc1 O-O 12.Rc2 Rc8 13.Qa1 Qb6 14.Rfc1 "This is exactly the type of position with which Reti players should feel comfortable. Thus far White has been content to simply to put his pieces where he wants them, safe in the knowledge that Black's committal play in the early opening pointed to the present set-up of Black's forces. Of course Black is OK, but waiting while the white pieces patiently slot into place in preparation for a step up in pace is not to everyone's taste." (Dunnington) Notable/Recent games in the 3...a6 lineHillarp Persson vs Rasmussen Wojtaszek vs. Rublevsky b) 3...c5 c) 3...c6 Gurevich vs La Rota d) 3...e5 aims directly for the Na3 Alvarez Ibarra vs Pina4.Nxc4 Nc6 4...b5? is almost a respectable alternative Krogius vs Karasev 5.b3 5.Nce5 is occasionally tried Feustel vs Mortensen Bilek vs Keres5...e5 6.Bb2 Additional/Recent games in the 3...c5 line Danailov vs TwardonKochyev vs TaimanovHuebner vs Garcia PalermoMalakhov vs Ionov

The Method of Reti and Smyslov name vs name = link Akopian vs Khalifman (1999) The amazing c-pawn. 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.b4 Bg7 4.Bb2 O-O 5.g3 d6 5...b6 Mikhalchishin vs Golubovic (1995) Reti vs Capablanca 1-0 (1924) 5...c6 Taimanov vs Gligoric ½ (1962) Aronian vs Yandemirov 0-1 (2000) Matulovic vs Ivkov ½ (1967) Emma vs Najdorf 0-1 (1973) 5...d5 Vokac vs Pribyl 1-0 (1996) Nikolaidis vs Katsenos 1-0 (1993) Reti vs Pokorny 1-0 (1923) 6.Bg2 e5 7.d3 Smyslov vs Gufeld 1-0 (1961)Smyslov vs Boleslavsky ½ (1962) 7...Nh5 continue Akopian vs Khalifman Return to Following Smyslov and Reti Menu

Regina-Nu Gambits (our thanks to Rewokatrat for making us aware of this) -------- with White1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.b3 cxb3 Nc3 Reti Regina-Nu Gambit 1.f4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.b3 cxb3 Nc3 Bird Regina-Nu Gambit 1.Nf3 d5 2.b3 c5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Nc3 Nimzo-Larsen Attack -------- with Black 1.d4 c5 2.dxc5 b6 3.cxb6 Nc6 Hekili-Loa Gambit Zukertort Opening: Regina-Nu Gambit http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/A04_Zukertort_Opening_Regina_Nu_Gambit Post whatever you find about this topic and I will organize it here in the lead comment.

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The Catalan uses fiancetto of bishop kingside to support pawn advance up the middle while gambiting c4 pawn to make space for d4/e4 progression. what makes this a reti twist on the catalan is nf3 as your initial move which allows for various opening options depending on how black plays for instance nf3/c4, English, gambit, catalan, KIA, and much much more

Hi, wonder, what to play against 1... e6. Against 1.Nf3 f5 I would like to play 2.d3. But this could be a problem if my opponent plays 1.Nf3 e6 2.c4 f5 Suggestions appreciated

How do you counter 1.Nf3 c5? Is it possible/advisable to go for a typical Reti setup, or should one abort the Reti-idea and transpose into something else?

Does anyone have any experience with the move order 1.Nf3 d5 2.e3 with c4 to follow? This move order seems to give you Reti positions without giving black the opportunity to play d4 and get into the annoying reverse Benoni. I am looking for any information.... Thanks in advance for any help at all.