⚔️ Chaturaji ⛵📜 History V/S Modernity 📈statistics 🛡️Poll:

First we are going to know a little about the history that is known about this cultural game. It is currently gaining popularity among Chess players and we find it interesting to know what you think of this game; You can leave us your appreciation below in the comments.

We are going to give a brief summary of what it is about and we will give the rules of the old game and the differences that exist with the current rules.

Historians indicate that Chaturaji is a predecessor of Chaturanga, and therefore the Ancestor of Modern Chess. Chaturaji (meaning "four kings"), The term Chaturaji refers to a position in the game comparable to checkmate in chess. Also known as "Choupat", [ca:upa:ʈ]) is a version of chaturanga for four players. The first news that we have of it appears in the book India de Biruni around the year 1030.

"But like all stories and myths, there are multiple versions".

Terms:

- Rajah (king)
- Victory = called Chaturaji, there is no check or checkmate.
- Promotion = it is called Shatpada or six steps.

"We can say that Chaturaji is the first chess game for 4 that was created in history".

Differences with Current Chaturaji:

- The rules are different.
- The movements of the pieces are also
- There is no "check".
- The position of the pieces also changes.
- In ancient times they played with dice, so there was the luck factor and not 100% precision, since they used it to make bets.

Old rules:

The king, the rook (called an elephant) and the knight move like in chess. The pawn also moves as in chess, but does not have the option of the initial double move. Also the rules for promotion are different.

Chaturaji's starting position, allies are on opposite corners of the board.

In this game, the bishop is called a ship. Move diagonally, skipping one square (see the diagram with the movement of the bishop in Shatranj). When the ship moves so that it forms a 2x2 square filled with ships, it captures all three of the other players' ships (see diagram).

Each turn two dice are rolled. Normally four-sided oblong dice were used, although it is possible to do so with cubic dice. The piece to move was determined by the die (four-sided dice had neither 1 nor 6):

1 or 5 - pawn or king
2 - ship
3 - horses
4 or 6 - elephant
Each turn you can make two plays, one for each die. The same or different pieces could be moved and the player could "skip or pass" making one of his two moves if he so wished.

Naval victory rule. White's ship on c3 can capture all other ships by moving to e5. Each of the ships belongs to a different player.

As mentioned above, there is no check or checkmate. The king can be captured like any other piece. The object of the game is to earn as many points as possible. Points were earned by capturing opponents' pieces, according to the following scale:

pawn - 1
boat - 2
horses - 3
elephant - 4
King - 5.

Note:
Whoever captures the 3 opposing kings gets 54 points if his remains on the board. 54 is the value of the sum of points of all the pieces of three armies.

According to the rules of the game in the "quoted Purana", which Vyasa gives to Prince Indix, the game had other more complicated rules, such as:

If a Rajah (king) can successively occupy the thrones of the three Princes, he obtains victory, called chaturaji; and the bet is doubled if he kills the last of the three shortly before taking possession of a throne; but if he kills him on his own throne, the stake is quadrupled.
When a player has his own Raja on the board and his ally's has been captured, he can replace his fellow captive if he manages to take the two opposing Rajas, and if he doesn't reach this goal, he can exchange his Raja for one of them and redeem to the ally who will put himself in his place.

When a Rajah has placed himself on another Rajah's square, this advantage is called shinhasana and is doubled if he kills his opponent by taking his place, and if he can sit on his ally's throne, he takes command of the entire army.
If a Pawn can reach one of the squares at the opposite end of the board, except for the Raja and the Ship, it assumes the faculties belonging to that square, this promotion is called shatpada or six steps.

Whether the shinhasana or the chaturaji wins, the Rajah must be supported by the Elephants and all the assembled pieces.

There can be neither victory nor defeat if the Rajah is left on the plain without any force, a situation which is called cacacashta.

If three Ships are found together and the fourth can reach the remaining angle above them, it is called urihnnanca, and the fourth takes the other three.

More information: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaturaji#:~:text=El%20Chaturaji%20(cuyo%20significado%20es,Biruni%20alrededor%20del%20a%C3%B1o%201030.

Note:
Currently some players play Chaturaji with the rules that are known, but omitting the use of dice.

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Why change the name?

We consider that it is not necessary to change the name. Currently, we are not playing Historical Chaturaji, there are many differences, mentioned above. This can cause confusion for people who want to read the rules in global media such as the internet, so it is also important to publish the new rules globally.

However, it is not necessary to change the name, since it would seem an offense to History, Chess was also improved and/or perfected over time and did not change its current name.

How to support this thesis?

This thesis can be directly supported by what people think about the weakness of the green pieces, that in modern times precision, justice and balance are required. Additionally, if the engines deliver a favorable factor, this type of analysis can be attached.

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"One of the people who has perfected this excellent game is Henrik Storesund, better known as @hest1805 , Inventor of chaturaji hyper fiesta and other less famous 4-player chess variants".

Current Rules:

Capture more pieces than your opponents and watch out for your king!
There are no checks or checkmates—instead, kings can be captured. Pawns promote to rooks (sailboats).

Free For All (FFA)
The goal is to finish with the most points of any player.
Points may be earned in the following ways:

• Capturing active (colored) pieces: pawns +1, knights +3, bishops +5, rooks +5, queens +9, kings +3,
• Checking two players simultaneously: +1
• Checking three players simultaneously: +5

- Pawns will promote on your 8th rank.
- Pieces become “dead” (grey) when a player is eliminated. Capturing dead pieces does not award any points.
- Gameplay begins with the Red player. Clockwise move order: Red, Blue, Yellow, Green.
- The game is finished when three players have been eliminated.
- The last remaining player will be given +3 for each enemy king left on the board.

Claim Win means a player is so far ahead on points that he will win even if he resigns.
Autoclaim means a player is forced to claim the win (eg resign) immediately to protect the player in 2nd place.
In case of insufficient material, threefold repetition or the 50-move rule, the remaining players will share the points of the remaining kings.
Points do not directly affect rating changes, only final placement does.
A disconnected player has 60 seconds to reconnect before being forfeit on time.

IMPORTANT: Players must think independently. It is prohibited to suggest moves and/or coordinate attacks using chat (or other means of communication) during FFA 4PC games! Also players may not discuss blunders which can be fixed, but may discuss what already happened and cannot be undone. If you break this rule you will be chat-banned or even play-banned! Examples of prohibited phrases: "Check red", "Let's attack green together", "I won't take your queen", "Mind your rook", "Protect your pawn", "Mate in 2". You can use these and similar phrases in chat after a game, but not during a game.
IMPORTANT: It is prohibited to ask other players to give you points! For example: "Give me 7 points and I will resign.", "Just 5 points, ple-e-ease!" You can be chat-banned for doing this.

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In June of the year 2022, the first Chaturaji world championship is held, where the 20 best players in the world compete.

Lets go!!! ⛵ Championship The Chaturaji Masters' Club | Brackets #9 Final | @Fiat147 | @Terkenal | @VEPOS | @GellartGrindelwald | 19-06-22

 🏆 @Fiat147 Champion ⚔️ 



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⚔️ The Chaturaji Masters' Club🛡️
https://www.chess.com/club/the-chaturaji-masters-club

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The Chaturaji Masters' Club Official | 23-06-2022

Today 06-23-2022 we celebrate a historic milestone, this group becomes the Official Chaturaji Club, it really deserves it and we are very happy about this event.



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Debate:

We are very interested in this discussion, and it seems that green pieces are at a clear positional disadvantage, so much so that they have a forced move on their first move.

|1.- What version of starting position of the king do you prefer in chaturaji?
2.- The current position is unfair, for green pieces?

Poll let's go:
We will leave a poll here: https://forms.gle/aoaVcExgFAmn3RXy9

Change of position, definitive solution?

Some tests performed with the new starting position:

@hest1805 | @adhd74000 | @Member243 | @martinaxo

https://www.chess.com/variants/custom/game/26537908/38/4

@Max_Wolfe | @martinaxo | Futer0 | Futer1

https://www.chess.com/variants/custom/game/26724329/276/3

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Statistics: Updated today 13-05-2022 | 20:18:15

1.- What version of starting position of the king do you prefer in chaturaji?
2.- The current position is unfair, for green pieces?

Poll let's go:
We will leave a poll here: https://forms.gle/aoaVcExgFAmn3RXy9

Voting Participants:

Honestly it would be interesting to know the opinion and vote of all active Chaturaji players

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Chaturaji has become one of my favorite games of late, and I understand that very well. I consider that I have a good ability, but there are players superior to me, anyway I managed to be very competent in my last battle against the gods of Chaturaji, I leave you my last game:

Epic Game:

@dbaralic (2253) | @smfz1 (2133) | @Jaisuraj (2423) | @martinaxo (2098)

https://www.chess.com/variants/chaturaji/game/26693565

Is the opinion of the people very important?

Of course it is, and even more so for those who play today. We invite all game fans to give their grain of sand by virtue of this game and tell us what you think.

I hope you like it, sharing your vision of the game and tell us what you think of a possible perfecting or improvement to this excellent game.

Greets you sincerely, and see you in a next battle.
Martinaxo

Opinion: It is unbalanced for yellow.

what

yellow is fine

The poll was created to find out what chaturaji players opinion on the fairness of the opening position for green. This is because if Red and Yellow play early bishop moves it can lead to a quick mate on Green. I don't think yellow is disadvantaged lol 

I think it is interesting to only switch the green king and knight

We could try playing this in a casual game? Just click "Edit position" and then move the pieces as you like. I would be happy to test it with you... I think it would be best to have 4 human/Space Snail players though. Also can we all acknowledge that I won the test game with 43 points?  

lol let's test it then who agrees?

:/

yeah I saw that vid yo once but definitely won't agree. He said it was so because red moves first and blue is red's left, but really green is worse

Didn't you close this account

In my opinion, the rankings of 4 positions by advantage are 

#1. red

#2. yellow

#3. blue

#4. green

yes

no red is last green is 2nd and yellow and blue are tied for 1st with white behinde green but ahead of yellow while red is behind blue and ahead of yellow because black is also behind blue but ahead of red so instead both black and blue have disadvnatages over red and black since white is disadvantages for the positioning of yellow while red comes ahead of blue in terms of open play while the advantage goes to blue and yellow for open play while advantage for advantages comes for yellow and green when black and white have a disadvantages over red when red is weak over yellow and blue because purple and green are bad

This sums up my thoughts too.

PS Soundlord may of had too much sugar.

The Chaturaji Masters' Club Official | 23-06-2022 

Today 06-23-2022 we celebrate a historic milestone, this group becomes the Official Chaturaji Club, it really deserves it and we are very happy about this event.



Mission Accomplished!