fog of war tips?

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ChessWillow100

Hello! I enjoy playing fog of war, it's my favorite variant. Does anyone have any tips for fog of war? For me it's just random and hoping your opponent made a blunder. Any strategies?

randomperson76

some tips that i have learned. and believe in so far..

- get knights out early

- open up bhishop diagnals so the bhishops can see more

- castle early so your opponent can't trick you by attacking the default king position. 

- set up base before moving to attack the opponent.

duntcare

get rook files and queen moves into confirmed safe squares 

EternallyBad

Get knights and bishops out

Then randomly start moving pawns until you take their pieces - best to play h4-g4-g5 and usually end up taking the knight

StevenEmily

Try not to assume something's not protected. The non-castling pawns are amazing

ChessWillow100
MASTER_JUSTIN2 wrote:

knights are good because they can see pieces while the pieces cant see the knight

yeah, i have seen that.

ChessWillow100

cool! grin.png (my favorite peice in fog of war is the knight, like cuz they can jump and i just got the queen xD)

ChessWillow100

proof that knights are helpful: https://www.chess.com/variants/variant/game/10010095

i won a WIM with a knight, took her queen grin.png

JCM0

What are the criteria for forfeiting on time? Lost 2 games(I was winning) on that and I don't know why I forfeited on time. Any help? I wasn't down to 0 sec. Rather I was about 1 min and suddenly I was at  5 sec and I didn't see or understand it.

sakulp

Prioritize king safety (from those cheesy bishops). Put bishops in diagonals that give you vision. Be careful with unprotected pieces. Try to educately guess where the opponent king is. Don't advance your pieces too much. Trading pieces can had the added bonus of giving you opponent vision, so sometimes bishop for a knight can be good, although bishops can give you far more vision, on the other hand knights can attack sneakily. 

Capn_Schmideo

What I have noticed is that preserving your pieces that can see across the board is important. It's like reconnaissance in war time. Leave your king lots of room to move. Castle early. Then move the king to an unexpected place. Assume your opponent will be aiming bishops and the queen at the spot where your king used to be. Set traps for them with multiple pawns.

muli2000

After a game has ended, is there a way to make the board visible? For analysis?

nlowhim

muli2000 you can press on the mid-lower right side the icon that looks like a chessboard. It will clear it up for you

Yarael
nlowhim wrote:

muli2000 you can press on the mid-lower right side the icon that looks like a chessboard. It will clear it up for you

 

ILoveScotch

Just a few observations after 1300+ FOW games. I reviewed my losses, both to lower and higher rated players, and noticed some patterns.

Lower rated players often used unexpected pawn pushes or risky piece invasions to catch me off guard and introduce some chaos into the position. With more open lines (especially around the king) there are fewer safe squares and luck plays a greater role. That may improve your odds against a stronger opponent but it's not a good long-term approach. As your rating increases, you'll be regularly paired with lower-rated players so it's necessary to win a very high percentage of your games to maintain or increase your rating. You can't rely on chaos.

In reviewing games against higher-rated players, I noticed a greater focus on safety. Carefully choose an opening that keeps the king safe against cheap tricks. If at all possible, you should never allow exchanges to open a file or diagonal to your king unless you are certain it's safe. Your choice of opening helps ensure this.

Rather than using pawns to simply bust open the position or hunt down vulnerable pieces, use them as shields. Use them to identify safe squares. Try to lock up the position where you want safety so you can focus on breaking it open where you want to attack.

Always pay attention to your opponent's pawns. I use the right-click to mark an opponent's pawn anytime I see it so I know its last position. I right click the first square of the file if I've established it's an open file with no pawns.

As the game progresses, note what pieces your opponent still has, and use this to figure out what squares are safe. If you capture a bishop, remember its color, so you don't have to waste time later figuring it out.

Lastly, I found that I lost many games because my strong opponents would pick a target and coordinate their pieces to pile up on it. Perhaps I thought a pawn in front of my king was sufficiently guarded, but not after three piece exchanges. As in regular chess, exchanges progress from less valuable to more valuable, and many games have been won or lost because one side figured they had enough protection and ended up taking a rook with a queen only to find it was in fact protected by a queen along the diagonal. So unless you are confident you have the numbers advantage, don't take an opponent's lower-value piece with your higher-value piece. And on the flipside, try to be the first to pile up on a weak spot. It's very satisfying to plan an attack and see it succeed. Once you've won some material, play extra cautious so you don't give it back. Nothing is more annoying that outplaying your opponent all game only to drop your queen to a pawn at the very end.

IgnoratioElenchi33
ILoveScotch wrote:

Just a few observations after 1300+ FOW games. I reviewed my losses, both to lower and higher rated players, and noticed some patterns.

 

Edited for content, but this post is a great place to start. I find that fian-Cheeto-ing (thanks Naka haha) is a good tactic. I also would add move your queen to an unexpected square otherwise I've had too many games with a queen trade that made things more difficult.

ConorMaclaud
ILoveScotch wrote:

Just a few observations after 1300+ FOW games. I reviewed my losses, both to lower and higher rated players, and noticed some patterns.

Lower rated players often used unexpected pawn pushes or risky piece invasions to catch me off guard and introduce some chaos into the position. With more open lines (especially around the king) there are fewer safe squares and luck plays a greater role. That may improve your odds against a stronger opponent but it's not a good long-term approach. As your rating increases, you'll be regularly paired with lower-rated players so it's necessary to win a very high percentage of your games to maintain or increase your rating. You can't rely on chaos.

In reviewing games against higher-rated players, I noticed a greater focus on safety. Carefully choose an opening that keeps the king safe against cheap tricks. If at all possible, you should never allow exchanges to open a file or diagonal to your king unless you are certain it's safe. Your choice of opening helps ensure this.

Rather than using pawns to simply bust open the position or hunt down vulnerable pieces, use them as shields. Use them to identify safe squares. Try to lock up the position where you want safety so you can focus on breaking it open where you want to attack.

Always pay attention to your opponent's pawns. I use the right-click to mark an opponent's pawn anytime I see it so I know its last position. I right click the first square of the file if I've established it's an open file with no pawns.

As the game progresses, note what pieces your opponent still has, and use this to figure out what squares are safe. If you capture a bishop, remember its color, so you don't have to waste time later figuring it out.

Lastly, I found that I lost many games because my strong opponents would pick a target and coordinate their pieces to pile up on it. Perhaps I thought a pawn in front of my king was sufficiently guarded, but not after three piece exchanges. As in regular chess, exchanges progress from less valuable to more valuable, and many games have been won or lost because one side figured they had enough protection and ended up taking a rook with a queen only to find it was in fact protected by a queen along the diagonal. So unless you are confident you have the numbers advantage, don't take an opponent's lower-value piece with your higher-value piece. And on the flipside, try to be the first to pile up on a weak spot. It's very satisfying to plan an attack and see it succeed. Once you've won some material, play extra cautious so you don't give it back. Nothing is more annoying that outplaying your opponent all game only to drop your queen to a pawn at the very end.

This is very good instruction for Fog of War variant.

I would like to add few more points, which helped me to win against very strong players:

- do not put pieces where they are expected to be, actually this is the main idea of this variant;

- try to predict some possible targets in your positions, and make maximum protection on them.

surreal08

This opening provides good vision but be wary of King attacks and, mainly the scholar's mate

 

JFSebastian

Defence is key, to many go straight into attack. 

surreal08