The Catholic version of the English was done at Douay. The New Testament was completed 1582 and the Old Testament between 1608 and 1610. It's funny to me that they call it the "autorized" version. Authorized by whom? King James? Does the King really have the authority to determine what is properly the word of God? If he does, then I would assume the Kings of France, Spain, Belgium, various German principalities, and italian city-states would have the same power. As would the leaders of other nations besides. I would have to assume that each country could/would have its own "authorized" translation of the scriptures. That sounds like a lot of confusion to me. For example, "a virgin shall conceive and bear a son" could also be, "a young woman", " a maiden", "a maid-servant", "a girl". All are legitimate translations but only ONE is really accurate.
How the King James Bible came into being
Yes, it is interesting about the authorization. Who has the "authority" to determine the Word of God?
Which translation do you believe is really accurate?
I am a Catholic as the Crusaders were. The Crusades were called by the Pope to defend and ultimately retake the Holy Land. The Catholic Church alone has the authority to make the determination of authenticity of the Bible. The Protestant Bibles are even missing books from the Old Testament. And if you need a testament to the authority of the Pope, read Saint Iranaeus "Against the Heresies". He (writing about the year 175) tells us that all the other Church must follow the authority of Rome.
How does the Catholic Church know which versions are good? Who teaches them to discern?
Jesus granted the authority to Peter to be the head of the Church. His successors carry the promise. As noted above, Iranaeus testified to that 150 years later. The letter of Clement of Rome (third pope) testifies to it. The letters of Ignatius of Antioch provide a witness to it. Without the Catholic Church's authority there would be and could be no Bible.
Jesus granted the authority to Peter to be the head of the Church.
Can you give me a scripture to prove this?
Matthew 16: 18 - 19 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
The word Jesus would have used for "Peter" (which is Greek) would have been Kepha. In arameic that means "bedrock". We know he probably used that word and not "Peter" because in the Acts of the Apostles and other places, Peter is called by that name. For example, First Corinthians 15:5, Paul tells that Jesus was seen after the Resurrection: "And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve". Notice that Peter (Cephas/Kephas) is mentioned first?
Also very important, after the Resurrection Jesus has this exchange with Peter (in John 21):
"So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again the second time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep." So Jesus gives over the care of His flock to Peter, the Rock.
I can give lots more, but that's a good start. BTW, the quotes above are from the King James version since I believe that is your preferred version.
What is your preferred version of the Bible? Actually, I prefer the NKJV, but I'm not offended at any other's by any means.
So, because Peter was head of the church God gave him the insight to know which BIble versions were right?
Correct. Because without authority there can be no assurance of anything.
The New Jerusalem Bible is very good for modern translation (generally). The old Duay Rhiems version is very good and has the old english "thee" and "thou" which I actually like.
Thanks for the insight. I'll have to ponder these things.
Wait what? I know this is a few years later but I'm pretty sure that Christ is the head of the church.
“For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.” Ephesians 5:23 KJV
Why would Peter be the first pope, when there is a whole book in the new testament called 'Romans' which is against the Roman Catholic church. Anyway, Peter was married and popes aren't allowed to get married.
“And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.”Mat 8:14 KJV
The Authorized Version, commonly known as the King James Version, the King James Bible or simply the KJV, is an English translation by the Church of England of the Christian Bible begun in 1604 and completed in 1611.[3] First printed by the King's Printer, Robert Barker,[4][5] this was the third such official translation into English; the first having been the Great Bible commissioned by the Church of England in the reign of King Henry VIII, and the second having been the Bishop's Bible of 1568.[6] In January 1604, King James I of England convened the Hampton Court Conference where a new English version was conceived in response to the perceived problems of the earlier translations as detected by the Puritans,[7] a faction within the Church of England.[8]
James gave the translators instructions intended to guarantee that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology and reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its beliefs about an ordained clergy.[9] The translation was by 47 scholars, all of whom were members of the Church of England.[10] In common with most other translations of the period, the New Testament was translated fromGreek, the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew text, while the Apocrypha were translated from the Greek and Latin.
In the Book of Common Prayer (1662), the text of the Authorized Version replaced the text of the Great Bible – for Epistle and Gospel readings – and as such was authorized by Act of Parliament.[11] By the first half of the 18th century, the Authorized Version was effectively unchallenged as the English translation used in Anglican and other Protestant churches. Over the course of the 18th century, the Authorized Version supplanted the Latin Vulgate as the standard version of scripture for English speaking scholars.