Nice post-up! I will bookmark this and save to continue seeing the results. Hope to see my name included with the other Finalists, soon!
Inagural Chess.Com Crazyhouse Championship (December 2016)
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Dec 1, 2016
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#4
Looks like we have some strong players and some crazyhouse/bughouse specialists dominating the early qualifiers.
1-Dec-2016: Why did I wake-up this morning? I woke-up at a normal hour to play some Crazyhouse. I don't know why I woke-up this morning. There's no qualifier.
Could you explain what does ''?'' mean near with my nickname?
Rusmagic wrote:
Could you explain what does ''?'' mean near with my nickname?
My apologies Rusmagic -- Six (6) people qualified in the first Qualifier.
You and @MrBF both had the same number of wins and Tiebreak points. Both of you are listed as #5.
The official tournament announcement says that the top 5 will proceed, or "be invited" to the final on 10-Dec.
So, the question becomes (and, it's not for me to decide) ... Will there be 101 players in the final, or will only 100 (of the qualifiers) be invited. (In that case, your rating was higher than MrBF, thus, you were higher in the 5th place ranking.)
And, what if another round has the same or similar ... 102, 103, 104 players (in the final)???
Nothing here is official. Verify any ambiguity (conflict or concern) with Chess.com staff.
I could easily see the potential for up to 110 or 120 players (in the final) with some having matching scores and tie-breaks. And the final is supposed to be 15-rounds. (Of an anticipated 100 participants.). The official tournament announcement has "qualification" and "invitation" statements. -- You've qualified. Then there's invitation. (Though, the official statement says below final round that participants are not limited. I'm not sure how this all works.)
The "?" is simply -- I don't know how seeding (and/or selection) for the final round will take place.
The "?" does not have to do with your name or status or position in tournament rankings, but how the "official" tournament rules are interpreted or handled. -- I can remove it if you like?
Thank you for your answer! I haven't got more questions.
Dec 1, 2016
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#9
I know some strong players have been invited (I think a couple top 10 GMs were mentioned), so I would expect there to be more than 100 participants. So my guess - which is still just a guess - is that anyone tied for fifth, after tiebreaks, will qualify. So I'm guessing that both @Rusmagic and @MrBF will both be in. However, it might be wise to confirm that with staff.
Well for me, what's confusing is the following statement (which is from the official posting of this tournament) about the FINALS which takes place Dec 10:
Open registration begins one hour before the event, at 9 a.m. PST (no limit on participants).
How can they say no limit on participants when they said it's only open to the 100 people who QUALIFIED to get to the Finals in the first place? It makes it seem that anyone else who registers at that time will also be able to play in the FINALS? Definitely some clarification needs to be made. I also agree that the people tied for 5th after Tiebreaks should be in as well, otherwise that wouldn't be fair to whoever wouldn't get to advance.
BughouseMaster wrote:
Well for me, what's confusing is the following statement (which is from the official posting of this tournament) about the FINALS which takes place Dec 10:
Open registration begins one hour before the event, at 9 a.m. PST (no limit on participants).
How can they say no limit on participants when they said it's only open to the 100 people who QUALIFIED to get to the Finals in the first place? It makes it seem that anyone else who registers at that time will also be able to play in the FINALS? Definitely some clarification needs to be made. I also agree that the people tied for 5th after Tiebreaks should be in as well, otherwise that wouldn't be fair to whoever wouldn't get to advance.
That's probably a mistake. Confusion. The whole "No limit on participants" goes along with "everyone is welcome" (novices and GM's alike). The way Daily chess tournaments are run... this happens (if you tie for a place that advances, you're in). Things change. "Invite," might mean exactly that.
It should probably be (how I read it...)
"Qualifiers are open to anyone. Final is limited to around 100 players who qualified (5 from each of 20 qualifying rounds)."
But, hell, if they leave the "final" open for everyone, I say ... run amuck. Win, Lose or Draw, that's 15 rounds of fun. Imagine someone (or a few people) not in that initial 100 who screw with the rankings.
They don't call it Crazyhouse for nothing!
(Allowing anyone to just inject themselves into winning prize money goes along with the crazy aspect of the game itself. Maybe it's not a mistake?! Who knows.)
Ha! Good point... Yeah, but then what would be the point of everyone trying to get QUALIFIED for the Final that they made us think is Open only to those who finished Top 5 in each qualifying event?
BughouseMaster wrote:
Ha! Good point... Yeah, but then what would be the point of everyone trying to get QUALIFIED for the Final that they made us think is Open only to those who finished Top 5 in each qualifying event?
Have you noticed the Crazyhouse club went from 400-something members to over 700 last I looked?
Classic bait-and-switch marketing. Please opt-in.
Plus, it's probably easier to manage a Crazyhouse tournament (versus Bughouse). Gives crazy people their fix before the bug out.
Sultan is playing again despite the fact he just qualified.... those that have qualified should not be able to play again, as it skews the results.
BughouseMaster wrote:
Sultan is playing again despite the fact he just qualified.... those that have qualified should not be able to play again, as it skews the results.
Why are you worried about this? You'll probably make the final round. Even if SultanOfKings plays again, like JannLeeCrazyhouse has placed twice ... the "qualifiers" are those who have not already qualified.
I see and know what you're saying about skew: If that person (who has already qualified) beats you, could knock you out of that top-5 ranking (screw with tiebreak points). Especially when people are winning 5/7. So, win 6/7 or beat the person who beats the person who beats you. (A 3-way beating to beat the tiebreak calculation.)
That level of competition makes it kind of definitive who should and should not make it to the final round. (IMHO: In my humble opinion, I don't have a problem with this competitive factor. Then again, I'm not expecting to make it to the final round, so, I don't have this problem.)
Dec 2, 2016
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#16
What do the rules say about even tiebreaks? Did I qualify though event #5 or do I have to play again? I didn't play littleplotkin, but won a game against Hammer in round 6. Does that count?
FlySooHigh wrote:
What do the rules say about even tiebreaks? Did I qualify though event #5 or do I have to play again? I didn't play littleplotkin, but won a game against Hammer in round 6. Does that count?
The Original Tournament Announcement is here:
https://www.chess.com/news/view/chess-com-crazyhouse-championship-4577
Has the rules and conditions.
I don't know about tiebreaks. Traditionally, those equal advance. On the other hand, as I replied to Rusmagic about the "?" after username (this thread, look at previous posts) ... the original Tournament Announcement says "invitations" to the final will be sent out to qualifiers. So, it may be only 100 invitations... or maybe everyone who places top 5 are invited (more than 100 players).
That's up to Chess.com staff and management. (Unclear to me.)
Maybe @Kirkwood could get you an answer?
(Since this question has come up twice.)
Or @DanielRensch -- He posted the original tournament announcement, and is one of the Crazyhouse club admins.
Dec 2, 2016
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#18
Ok, thx! I 've checked my mailbox and saw the invitation to the finals from Kirkwood.
Historical Note:
Qualifier 3 was re-scheduled after an issue with its initial date and time. Qualifier 3 is now complete. This was removed (edited out of) the above list. The following is for historical purposes (doesn't matter, but, here it is)...
===== HISTORICAL NOTE =====
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 3: [NO EVENT LINK!]
RESCHEDULED
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 1-Dec-2016
Status Report: As of 09:45AM, there was no "Qualifier" link in the Live Chess.com Tournament list. It was also not in the "In Progress" tournament list.
There was, however, another 3|0 standard Crazyhouse tournament in-progress. But that should have seeded after the creation of the Qualifier which opened an hour before tournament start the previous two days.
Looks like the 3rd Qualifier round has been cancelled and/or aborted. Might (or might not) be re-scheduled.
THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. I AM NOT STAFF.
(People are quoting me as if this means something more than the simple update that it is. What belongs here is a list of 5 players who qualified round 3. Since there was not a 3rd qualifier, I felt the need to update the list with a note. This is it. NOT OFFICIAL.)
OFFICIAL NOTE: (11:16 AM, PST)
Kirkwood (Chess.com staff) said...
"Hi everyone! We're terribly sorry about the problems with the 3rd qualifier. We ran into a problem on our end which prevented the tournament from taking place. We have rescheduled the 3rd tournament for tomorrow at 12pm Pacific time, so two hours after the 5th qualifier. If anyone has any questions, please let me know! We're sorry again!"
Tournament Announcement:
https://www.chess.com/news/view/chess-com-crazyhouse-championship-4577
The list below is not "official," and it's whichever qualifier rounds I catch or participate in and see the end results. (If I miss one, please fill-in-the-blank.)
NOTE: Updated the list with ratings. Ratings come from the last game of the event in which it looks like the player qualified. There is a complete, compressed list in a new post on page 3 of this thread. (Tracking and classifying by rating, as players qualify.)
NOTE / UPDATE:
As of 5:50PM, 9-DECEMBER-2016, the Qualifiers are OVER, COMPLETE, DONE. NO MAS (NO MORE).
As of 11:45AM, 10-DECEMBER-2016, the Final is Finished. See the end of this post for the final top-10 results.
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 1: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 30-Nov-2016
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 2: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 30-Nov-2016 (1AM GMT, 1-Dec-2016)
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 3: RESCHEDULED
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 1-Dec-2016
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 4: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 1-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 2-Dec-2016)
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 5: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 2-Dec-2016
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 3: [Event Link]
12PM PST, 8PM GMT, 2-Dec-2016
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 6: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 2-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 3-Dec-2016)
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 7: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 3-Dec-2016
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 8: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 3-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 4-Dec-2016)
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 9: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 4-Dec-2016
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 10: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 4-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 5-Dec-2016)
Not Official.
NOT OFFICIAL!
If I made a mistake, please let me know.
But do not mistake this for being in any way "official."
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 11: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 5-Dec-2016
NOTE: Missed the first game? But still qualified!
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 12: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 5-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 6-Dec-2016)
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 13: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 6-Dec-2016
Looks like @ChesterUMN would have qualified, but, accidentally withdrew after winning his last game (with a 6/7 record). Tournament completed, but clicked the wrong "x" or closed out the interface knowing it was qualifying before the tournament came to a close (all games complete).
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 14: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 6-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 7-Dec-2016)
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 15: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 7-Dec-2016
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 16: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 7-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 8-Dec-2016)
Okay, ...
... seriously people... we've gotta have a talk about this nonsense ...
... all of this "Already Qualified" stuff is starting to get ABSURD.
I mean, look...
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 17: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 8-Dec-2016
"Just note that our systems will be hard at work detecting foul play in these events in case you thought we weren't paying attention"
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 18: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 8-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 9-Dec-2016)
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 19: [Event Link]
10AM PST, 6PM GMT, 9-Dec-2016
(In the United States, just before bars and lounges close, this is called about 15 minutes before cutting off alcohol sales. We only have 1 qualifier left after the above, and it happens in 6 hours. Tomorrow is the final.)
3 min - Crazyhouse Chess Qualifier 20: [Event Link]
5PM PST, 9-Dec-2016 (1AM GMT, 10-Dec-2016)
NO REST DAY
FINAL on 10-DECEMBER-2016 at 10AM PST
10AM PST is 6PM GMT
And your Top-10 Finalists are ... [Event Link]
These rankings do not reflect monetary pay-out. (Unofficial.)
There will probably be a forthcoming News Article from Chess.com covering the Tournament and Results officially in the next few days.
The official write-up is here: [Link]
https://www.chess.com/news/view/fm-dan-yeager-chickencrossroad-and-im-justin-tan-jann-lee-win-crazyhouse-championship-4986
Note: Thanks to @happytoad for providing the link near the end of this forum thread, and thanks to @SamCopeland (one of our qualifiers) for the official write-up.