Opinions on Novus Ordo vs. Traditional Rite (Latin Mass) - As well as Vatican 2

Hello, my brothers and sisters in Christ. I am currently discerning my calling in life and feel strongly called to the priesthood. There are two topics, however, which I have been focusing my study on for the last few weeks. The New Mass vs. The Latin Mass seems to be a pretty big difference in every way. I was honestly surprised to learn that the Latin Mass is not just a Latin translation - it is so much more! It has all the traditional prayers and everything which Vatican 2 said was not exactly required and therefore established Novus Ordo. My questions for you is: Is Novus Ordo still worthy of the praise God deserves/ is it really correct? Is it just inferior to the Latin Mass? And was Vatican 2 really just a terrible decision in Catholic history?

Thank you, ChristoRedemptor (soon to be seminarian hopefully)

i'm glad to hear your thinking about priesthood i'm not a man but i'm trying to find my calling to being a nun or a mother(both in the very far future)but i do like Vatican 1 more even though i rarely ever go.

Very good to hear that, sister. I hope you will find your calling soon and the convent would be great (we do need more faithful mothers as well though) - so any path you take will be great as long as you stay true to the faith

Thanks I feel like the Lord is telling me to be a mother(again veeeerrry far future)because of how I handle kids my friends and family love that I want to become a nun but they say I would also make a great mom.

I wouldnt say that novus ordo is inferior but rather latin mass offers more than novus ordo. I feel like that novus ordo has been misused making more lukewarm people which is by no fault of their own. I am a TLM supporter and former novus ordo and I feel a big difference between them spiritually. TLM intergrates you more and I find it ancient and mysterious which reminds me of God. I too feel a call to priesthood but I still need to discern my vocation.

This is probably the largest topic of controversy inside our church. Having experienced both kinds of masses, I am fond of both, and do not believe either to be wrong.

Remember that the actual meaning and purpose of mass is more important than the motions.

I'm shocked that this club is so full of the TLM loving Catholics, especially if you believe in the Novus Ordo as well.

I also attend the Latin Mass and I believe it is far superior in ways, but when it comes to what the Mass is for, both forms of the Latin rite are perfect. As well as all the Eastern Catholic liturgies.

I love seeing you all discerning. I took am searching for my calling.

I personally prefer the Latin Mass. The Vatican II took so much out and made it look like a Protestant mass. The Latin mass gives so much praise to God. The first time I attended one, I felt like I was in heaven.

I'm a Eastern Catholic.

Eastern traditions are based.

The New Mass is invalid. It basically is just a Protestant church service. The true mass (Traditional Latin Mass pre-1962) is, at least for Latin-rite Catholic Churches, the only valid mass. Vatican 2 is a new religion. This video, among others, explains a bit about it: https://endtimes.video/vatican-ii-new-religion/

Begone Satan!

Sedevacantism is the devil's latest attempt to destroy the church.

I see to be getting a lot of mixed opinions on this. I would not say that the New Mass is at all completely invalid - that seems too strong of an accusation. The New Mass still is certainly lacking in certain traditions and classic prayers, but both masses serve the purpose of honouring God and distributing the Eucharist among us. Therefore, I think saying that the New Mass as a whole is completely invalid, just doesn't seem exactly true.

However, I do respect and agree with you that Latin Mass is better and that Vatican II honestly did not need to happen. If it never happened, our faith would be much stronger and in unity and not more "protestant-like" or evangelizing to protestants.

As you can probably tell, I am very mixed on my opinions - but once more, I will not agree that Novus Ordo is fully invalid nor that the Latin Mass is the ONLY valid option.

It's because @Christe_Eleison is the resident Sedevacantist in the group, something that should not be here. Sedes are glorified Protestants.

I certainly don't total agree with a lot of things Pope Francis does - but he is certainly still the Pope and the true Holy Father... I don't think that the Holy See is to be considered vacant (i.e. Sedevacantists are certainly taking Vatican 2 to an extreme)

⚜ Archbishop Vigano on the SSPX: 

Mercator, SSPX aren't sedevacantist usually. Do you believe that The pope is not the pope?

I am not a sedevacantist, The Pope is indeed a problem, but he is the Pope until otherwise advised. He is in reality only answerable to God. No-one else on Earth is.

Xumi, things like this are great mysteries.

The Catholic Church has to imitate its Founder, Jesus Christ, as it is His Mystical Body, and so has to accept its Calvary, which looks very like right now, as nothing like this has ever been, not the Arian Crisis. nor the protestant Revolution ,

But Jesus is King of all, and He is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

The pope is not infallible all the time he is a man just like us and I see yes he has done so much damage to us but it is impossible for the pope to destroy the church as Jesus said "The gates of hell will not prevail" the church will never be destroyed despite being so imperfect.