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hellodebake

Genesis chapter 1 v 2:

And the Spirit of God moved upon the waters....

In the original Hebrew language, the word 'moved' is the Hebrew word 'rachaph' ( raw-khaf) and by definition means to 'vibrate; shake; flutter indicating that the Holy Spirit was doing something at the time of creation.

I think it's fair to say he was creating gravitational energy pulling the waters and earth together ( forming the planet in its current circular / spherical shape ) since in verse 9 the Lord begins speaking things into being on planet earth.

A former member of C.C by the name of MattChessm whom i struck up a bit of a friendship with and who claimed to be knowledgeable in the Hebrew language ( i have no reason to doubt him) said the word is actually 'Murachaph' and the tense in which it is used implies the Holy Spirit is still vibrating - continuing gravitational energy...

I was always under the impression that the earth's core is what kept gravitational pull on the earth... So this might also be another point of discussion.

Any comments, suggestions, corrections, rebukes and the like are more than welcome.

PetecantbeatmeSLFL

Hmm, I'd say that fact that he was vibrating does not automatically mean he must of been making something or if he did how do you know it was gravity?

hellodebake
trump2020maga1 wrote:

Hmm, I'd say that fact that he was vibrating does not automatically mean he must of been making something or if he did how do you know it was gravity?

We do not know with certainty what he was doing. I suggested gravity but after looking Gen ch 1 over again i see in verse 9 'let the waters come together and let dry ground appear.'

So perhaps it was not gravity.... I'll see what else my concordance has to say about the particulars and get back tomorrow.

P.S. I guess i should have come better prepared this morning..... sad.png

 

PetecantbeatmeSLFL

I'm not prepared either, just talking

hellodebake

It's a good question. I'll see if i can dig up my chat with MattChessm. Perhaps there's something there. It's buried deep in the ODF.

LhcAndrewB

Interesting point.  But to believe it, you would already have to believe the Bible. Meaning, atheists and skeptics won't like it :/

I really find it interesting though 😃

 

hellodebake

One more interesting point on the word 'rachaph,' Gen c 1 v 2 is the only place in the entire OT where this particular translation of the word 'moved' is used - - and moved is used 54 times in the OT....

hellodebake

My computer was on the blink for the last few weeks so i was using someone else's to get my chess fix on C.C. Everything seems to be A-Ok now.

Any further comments on Gen c1 v2 are welcome, but i'm going to go ahead and move on to verse 3.

For those of you who are members of the 'Evolution Club' Stephen_33 (Wales ) and i discussed the Big Bang under the same topic name. He went on to say its 'inflation' that happened, not 'a' Big Bang. So i looked up the word and found it's actually 'Universal Inflation.'

Universal Inflation: The universe under went rapid growth during the first fraction of a second before settling down to it's current rate of expansion' according to Dictionary.com.

Genesis ch 1 v 3 reads, 'Let there be light.' In the original Hebrew language the word for light here is 'owr' ( ore) and means to 'illuminate' sky or universe beyond earth's atmosphere. 

The bible goes on to say the Lord created the sun,moon and stars ( vs 14-18 specifically vs 16 '2 great lights') but the word for lights here and vs 18 is the Hebrew word  'meorah' ( meh - o - rah )- luminous body. So vs 3 cannot be talking about the sun. 

So is verse 3 telling us about 'universal inflation,' - the very beginnings of our universe? Or speaking of something else entirely?

Any comments, corrections, rebukes, scientific responses are more than welcome.

LhcAndrewB

And what's the proof to believe universal inflation?

hellodebake

That's the discussion here. Read my next to last paragraph. #10

SoulMate333

While the Bible is not mean't to be a science book, it tells of principals (we know today to be true) thousands of years before they were first realized, such as, the hydrologic cycle, the globe earth and many others.  Here's a snippet:

hellodebake

Great post SoulMate!

SoulMate333

Thank you!

Kjvav

 Here’s just a thought... when the Spirit of God was moving on the face of the waters, at that point the Earth was “without form”. I can see how that possibly means it was not round, but an indescribable shape (think “3-D ink blot”). There was light at that time, but not day and night, which comes from our Earth’s rotation relative to the light. A liquid mass of undefined shape in a vacuum absent outside gravitational pull would assume the form of a sphere when set rotating, flattening out and eventually breaking apart from centrifugal force as speed increased. 
   God created the heavens, the Earth, light, (not darkness, darkness is not a thing, it is a description of the absence of light), Day and night on the first day. At that point, when the Earth was created, but without form, was the Holy Spirit imparting motion to the creation, the Earth in particular and causing the rotation/day-night cycles life depends on.

   It’s just a thought, I haven’t heard it anyplace else. I may be way off.

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