The Process of Decision Making in Chess Volume 2: Practice positions and solutions. Position 9.10

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Spochman

Solve for black:

Diagram 9.10- this time the isolated pawns are not a weakness; on the contrary- the c4 pawn is very strong, and practically impossible to blockade or threaten. In fact, white threatens to create a weak isolated pawn for black, by pushing c5! followed by cxd.

Challenge: the threat by white is clear. Is there a solution for black?
windyjohan

How about Qg5?

windrad

After Qg5 Rd5 Qf6 Ra2 would be strong.

Re5 seems sufficient. Defends c5 and attacks a5.

e.g. Re5, Rd5 Rxd5 followed by either Bxd5 Qe8 or cxd5 Ne5.

a6 is not enough because of bxa6 and because of the attack on the queen black can save the knight.

After Bxc6 bxc6 white creates a free a-pawn, but white must first move the queen who is attacked by Rb8. After Qa4 black has time to play Ra8, accepting the loss of pawn c6. After Qa3 black must first remove the pin on Qd8, e.g. by playing Qe8.

DominikS3

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atrolhavecome

Re5 meets complications after Re5, Rd5 Rxd5 Bxd5 with a double threat with the pin on the b pawn and the c5 threat yet agian c5 attacks the d6 pawn and f7 pawn. so we need to play Qe8 or Qf8 after Bxd5 and we are on the defencive. this is not lost for black but it is easier for white to fight for something.

 

atrolhavecome

beacause of this I believe we need to play Qf6 protecing the d6 pawn and attacking the a1 rook this seems like a small threat but, we kinda gain a tempo since he need to consider where to move his a rook and whit the a pawn that is defended by the rook. so it seems like the best

Sergeledan

How about the simple b6?? and if a6 then Nf5 obstructs with attack on the Queen, delaying c5 and more....????

Spochman

@Sergeledan and what if ..b6, Bxc6?

Sergeledan

Yeah! that was a blunder.... sorry

Spochman

@Sergeledan sure.. it's part of the game. 

windrad

@glenni3377, what about Qf6 Rdb1? The threat is Bxc6 and I don't see a good defence. When the knight moves, Bxb7 could be played, followed by a6 and the a-pawn is very dangerous.

Does anyone see a defence after Qf6 Rdb1?

atrolhavecome

@windrad Qf6 Rab1 Nxa6 and if knight gets attacked b6happy.png and black is a bp.png up

 

 

KingOnAString
windrad wrote:

After Qg5 Rd5 Qf6 Ra2 would be strong.

Re5 seems sufficient. Defends c5 and attacks a5.

e.g. Re5, Rd5 Rxd5 followed by either Bxd5 Qe8 or cxd5 Ne5.

a6 is not enough because of bxa6 and because of the attack on the queen black can save the knight.

After Bxc6 bxc6 white creates a free a-pawn, but white must first move the queen who is attacked by Rb8. After Qa4 black has time to play Ra8, accepting the loss of pawn c6. After Qa3 black must first remove the pin on Qd8, e.g. by playing Qe8.

I agree with Windrad, Re5 is a sufficient move.  White must take blacks knight to save its a pawn and black threatens whites queen after it re-captures. 

atrolhavecome
cheeseplease skrev:
windrad wrote:

After Qg5 Rd5 Qf6 Ra2 would be strong.

Re5 seems sufficient. Defends c5 and attacks a5.

e.g. Re5, Rd5 Rxd5 followed by either Bxd5 Qe8 or cxd5 Ne5.

a6 is not enough because of bxa6 and because of the attack on the queen black can save the knight.

After Bxc6 bxc6 white creates a free a-pawn, but white must first move the queen who is attacked by Rb8. After Qa4 black has time to play Ra8, accepting the loss of pawn c6. After Qa3 black must first remove the pin on Qd8, e.g. by playing Qe8.

I agree with Windrad, Re5 is a sufficient move.  White must take blacks knight to save its a pawn and black threatens whites queen after it re-captures. 

what about re5 rd5 the rd5 line seems like a better line

KingOnAString
glenni3377 wrote:
cheeseplease skrev:
windrad wrote:

After Qg5 Rd5 Qf6 Ra2 would be strong.

Re5 seems sufficient. Defends c5 and attacks a5.

e.g. Re5, Rd5 Rxd5 followed by either Bxd5 Qe8 or cxd5 Ne5.

a6 is not enough because of bxa6 and because of the attack on the queen black can save the knight.

After Bxc6 bxc6 white creates a free a-pawn, but white must first move the queen who is attacked by Rb8. After Qa4 black has time to play Ra8, accepting the loss of pawn c6. After Qa3 black must first remove the pin on Qd8, e.g. by playing Qe8.

I agree with Windrad, Re5 is a sufficient move.  White must take blacks knight to save its a pawn and black threatens whites queen after it re-captures. 

what about re5 rd5 the rd5 line seems like a better line

Ok Glenni, I would play black's knight to e7, forcing white to move his rook away. If he takes black's rook, then black recaptures with the d pawn and white can no longer isolate  blacks pawn with their c file pawn

atrolhavecome
cheeseplease skrev:
glenni3377 wrote:
cheeseplease skrev:
windrad wrote:

After Qg5 Rd5 Qf6 Ra2 would be strong.

Re5 seems sufficient. Defends c5 and attacks a5.

e.g. Re5, Rd5 Rxd5 followed by either Bxd5 Qe8 or cxd5 Ne5.

a6 is not enough because of bxa6 and because of the attack on the queen black can save the knight.

After Bxc6 bxc6 white creates a free a-pawn, but white must first move the queen who is attacked by Rb8. After Qa4 black has time to play Ra8, accepting the loss of pawn c6. After Qa3 black must first remove the pin on Qd8, e.g. by playing Qe8.

I agree with Windrad, Re5 is a sufficient move.  White must take blacks knight to save its a pawn and black threatens whites queen after it re-captures. 

what about re5 rd5 the rd5 line seems like a better line

Ok Glenni, I would play black's knight to e7, forcing white to move his rook away. If he takes black's rook, then black recaptures with the d pawn and white can no longer isolate  blacks pawn with their c file pawn

Re5 Rd5 ne7 Rxe5 dxe5 Bxb7!

KingOnAString
glenni3377 wrote:
cheeseplease skrev:
glenni3377 wrote:
cheeseplease skrev:
windrad wrote:

After Qg5 Rd5 Qf6 Ra2 would be strong.

Re5 seems sufficient. Defends c5 and attacks a5.

e.g. Re5, Rd5 Rxd5 followed by either Bxd5 Qe8 or cxd5 Ne5.

a6 is not enough because of bxa6 and because of the attack on the queen black can save the knight.

After Bxc6 bxc6 white creates a free a-pawn, but white must first move the queen who is attacked by Rb8. After Qa4 black has time to play Ra8, accepting the loss of pawn c6. After Qa3 black must first remove the pin on Qd8, e.g. by playing Qe8.

I agree with Windrad, Re5 is a sufficient move.  White must take blacks knight to save its a pawn and black threatens whites queen after it re-captures. 

what about re5 rd5 the rd5 line seems like a better line

Ok Glenni, I would play black's knight to e7, forcing white to move his rook away. If he takes black's rook, then black recaptures with the d pawn and white can no longer isolate  blacks pawn with their c file pawn

Re5 Rd5 ne7 Rxe5 dxe5 Bxb7!

Nice Glenni, got me, what about Re5 Rd7 Rxd7 if white recaptures with the bishop, black moves their queen to g5 and get out of any possible pin from whites remaining rook

 

atrolhavecome

@cheeseplease of course Re5 Rd5 Rxd5 Bxd5 just beacause it makes some threats that are uncomfterble for black with c5 and Bxc6 if black is not carefull. then Qe8, Qd7 or Qf6 is a ok line for black my problem is that Qf6 makes the move a6 really strong for white (white need to prepare it but still, and Qe8 and Qd7 line gets a little defencive. therefor I believe with all the trades that have happened black do not got all of the inconvinience with Qf6 beacause a6 is not a threat at all compared to the Qf6 line when u trade rooks on d5