Yeah, @jackityjackjack is right, it's sadly hard to determine whether someone is stalling or thinking, and while it can be obvious at times, making it a specific reportable offense could easily get out of hand. Ik it's your last resort, but blocking is really the only reliable method here.
Time-wasting/running/stalling the clock
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May 6, 2024
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#3
jackityjackjack wrote:
I find stalling very annoying, but it's not against the rules, and I don't think it can be, since people can simply claim that they were thinking about their move.
It’s a reportable option on live chess, so I think it’s a parity issue and not an intentional difference. Based on the rating of the opponent and the position it’s definitely possible to find examples of stalling
I always figured it can be lumped to "Abandoning Games"- at the very least for instances where player deliberately waste 5-7+ minutes in a losing match. Nevertheless, subtle cases with less than 3-minute wait time is fair game for tolerance. -but if the player shows repeated instances of running the clock and/or resigning until the last couple of seconds on the clock. Then it is usually a crystal-clear case of "abandoning the game" from the rules.
I'm pretty confident that there were at least 2-3 instances from this user's archives from today's reports that I had filed which contained that kind of abandonment rule break. Still though, there should be a way for cases in which the player wastes 5-7 minutes of a player's time in a winning position. It's a bit silly and unproductive to not be reported as a case of trolling and/or abuse of sort.
Hey,
Timewasting/stalling is an offence that is punishable with a play-ban.
A few things to note:
1) Yes, it's hard to definitively state that a player is intentionally stalling unless it is really obvious (E.g. letting timer run down 3minutes because they're mated)
2) Leading on from the above point.... As a result the admin team must look through the archive of a player and catalogue offenses. I suppose because this is time-intensive and the offence itself isn't as serious as others (E.g. cheating with an engine) it is regarded as being lower priority.
May 10, 2024
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Why is stalling bad? they have a time control so they can use their time however they want
Kingsgambit_Unknowngamer3 wrote:
Why is stalling bad? they have a time control so they can use their time however they want
It is because it is the fact that it can be abused in spite of having the time control. In this case, blatant abuses will occur when it comes to these intentional stalling and of course the abandonment of matches. It's unsportsmanlike behavior and an outright bad incentive for players to continue playing if these issues are rampant within the community.
Would you like to play a match where the opposing player wastes 30 minutes of your time because he got salty and decided to stall the whole game? Then proceeds to only resign near the end of their allocated time, this is even more significant in rated matches.
Now I know that we're not allowed to accuse another player of rule-breaking. So, I'm just here wanting to get a general opinion on the matter of the deliberate and obvious time-stalling of the clock from this player. I've already reported for each, and every instance based upon this user's archive of games through the appropriate channel. It would appear no action has been done to discourage and/or inhibit this player's rampant and repeated abuse.
My question is why this isn't no longer a specific reportable thing, as I now have to utilize "other" in the report. My understanding from the past is that you usually get report feedback that indicates that the other player has been "punished" per se, but it's been quite a while now since my last round of reports on this specific player.
It is easy to block but I want to actually see results from the moderation team(s) to combat these abuses from community players. I do not like to see this player go unpunished especially for the blatant and repeated time-stalling on the variant games. I understand that the moderation team might get lots of cases, but it usually gets resolved within a week. Issue is that it has been more than 2 weeks since my last round of reports.
Any suggestions or input on this other than just blocking the player (As it's my last resort) would be great. If the status quo is that Time-stalling/running abuse is tolerated by the moderation team, then I'll happily go ahead and just block this player.