ChessGenius Millennium Exclusive chess computer

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mrpazoo

Does anyone own the electronic chess computer Millinnium ChessGenius Exclusive M820 that is rated at around 2400? What has your experience been with them, particularly if you prefer a standalone chess computer? Thank you.

Blougram

I like it. It's great fun to play against, and the piece recognition technology is second to none (probably better than the pricier DGT boards). I should add, though, that the board is not solid wood, more like veneer. And it is far from 2,400 ELO (or USCF) -- more like 2,100 against human opposition. I'm 1900 USCF and I would guess that I score 30% against the Exclusive in G15. But to me it's more fun when you actually stand a chance against the computer.

Macharran
I own the Millennium Chess Genius Pro M812. My first impression when opened the box was disappointment. That is because i was judging the construction which feels like a cheap toy, and the pieces are way to shiny rendering them very distracting. However once i play with it i was very surprised. It is really strong. Im rated at 1500 and i had to set the computer at the lowest level to defeat it. If you are not concerned about craftsmanship and only concerned about raw power for a reasonable price, then this is for you. (I only wish this computer would had looked like my old Radio Shack 2150L that i had when i was a kid).
TechnomanSlade

I created a post on the Site Feedback forum requesting Chess.com create a protocol for the ChessLink to allow Millenium Exclusive and Millenium King Performance boards to play OTB with Chess.com.  If you'd like to add your voices of support, here's the link:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/site-feedback/chess-com-support-for-millenium-exclusive-and-king-performance-via-chesslink

PaulTheMentat

I have noticed quite a few people complaining about the build quality of the Chess genius exclusive. If  you want something that is solid wood, square off has one that is pretty nice, although I don't think it is a real chess computer since your have to pair it with your phone which in turn does all the brain work. 

Here's a good place to learn more about the different chess computers...

https://hubpages.com/games-hobbies/Electronic-Chess-Computer

 

 

Chessvideoclub_com
TechnomanSlade hat geschrieben:

I created a post on the Site Feedback forum requesting Chess.com create a protocol for the ChessLink to allow Millenium Exclusive and Millenium King Performance boards to play OTB with Chess.com.  If you'd like to add your voices of support, here's the link:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/site-feedback/chess-com-support-for-millenium-exclusive-and-king-performance-via-chesslink

 

Why should Chess.com create a protocol? This is the job of Millennium. If Millennium deliver the protocol, then Chess.com can include it. Same way like the DGT protocol.

TechnomanSlade

Close, but not quite.  Millenium cannot program an interface for every different website, because their coding methods are different.  Chess.com and Lichess.org (as an example) do not share the same programming methods, although they may share the same language.

To make it easy, Millenium developed the ChessLink adapter, which is like a modem.  It uses a common driver to allow websites to communicate to it, and therefore, use the Millenium board as an input device (like the keyboard and mouse that you use to interact with the website) and an output device (the LEDs that show the piece move can be likened to your screen).  However, Chess.com would program the interface of their website to the ChessLink protocol developed by Millenium.

In order to do it, enough users need to request it.  While I can already play chess on ICC and FICS using Android for Chess and my Millenium board, I like playing on Chess.com.  So, it would be a nice feature to have.

Rubicon0367
That is how the interaction between Arena Chess GUI and the Novag Citrine worked (as a modem interface). Back in the day I followed the instructions in the Novag manual to set Arena Chess up with the Citrine but it did not work. A search on the internet brought me to a post a chap made about which settings to use in the dialogue box concerned with communicating with the Citrine. The defaults were incorrect even though Arena Chess had the menu item listed as “Connect with Citrine”. One of the settings was baud rate which is usually modem talk. There were other settings but I don’t remember what they were.

I am guessing in the case of Arena Chess and Novag the modem interface was software driven rather than having a hardware device (like in the old dial-up days where you could use a software modem that would mess with your CPU bus timings or an external hardware modem that was more stable).

Anyway, according to Arena Chess website the latest iteration of their GUI is for Linux and in the blurb it does not mention anything about being able to use a DGT or any other board. My installation of Arena does have the option for DGT and Citrine but my version is getting on a bit. So it could be they have carried forward the options for DGT but they I don’t know about Millennium or SquareOff.

If Arena did create connectivity with Millennium then their menu system might offer some insight as to how it works.
TechnomanSlade

I think if you're playing blitz online, and you're using the "confirm move" feature, you probably wouldn't use an electronic board as an input device, which you've already figured out.  However, moving the other person's pieces with LEDs is much easier than moving the other person's pieces with a speaker / screen combination (like DGT).  There are some possible future options such as the SquareOff Swap (I think it will be fast enough for blitz games) and maybe this new offering from Regium (supposedly Kickstarter coming soon).

No, I think the Millenium or DGT is better for slower games where people prefer to play OTB, but like the idea of playing with people on the Internet.  After all, try as I might, my house has only one chess player in it, and playing the computer alone can get stale.

Daniel_1960

Hi, Can I ask you something about the the Millennium Chess Computer?, I got it for Christmas and I love it, but the problem I am having (beside we can not connect with chess.com), is to find a playing level I am comfortable with, I am not a very good player, (I could say beginner), and selecting level like FUN *1, or EASY *0, still not easy to win a game...somebody have any suggestion here?

sangahm

@Daniel_1960 Perhaps you want to see where you are losing the game.  If you load your completed game in to chess.com analysis or lichess, then you can get better feedback on which moves are giving you the most problems -- whether it's on the opening, middle, or end game.  At the levels you are playing, you should be able to hold your own.

Daniel_1960

It's true sangahm, instead of lowering the computer level, trying to increase my level instead...different perspective, thank you for your suggestion.

Boydcarts
You may also want to turn on the “tutor” mode where the engine will suggest better moves.
Daniel_1960

Thank you Guys for the suggestions...and happy new year to everybody...

TechnomanSlade
Happy New Year! 
Those are the easiest settings of the MCGE. Generally, the chess computer will make errors at that level, making it easier to beat. It is great practice though - if I were you, I'd keep trying to beat it! Once you do, you'll be able to raise the level and get more training.
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There is a setting in the chess computer that allows you to have a "coach" give you hints. So, if you make a "bad" move, it will tell you and let you take it back. It would be a good idea to enable that setting! That will let you learn.
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Also, during a game, if you lose a critical piece (like your queen), you can take back a few moves to see if you can find a better solution.
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I hope that helps!