Chess.com has a large, but finite number of puzzles. The top guys obsessively do puzzles to the point they memorize a large portion of the high rated puzzles. That's how they get so high, and they're not shy about admitting it.
That crazy puzzle leaderboard.
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I don't think the puzzles are separated by rating. I think they are just random puzzles no matter what rating you are. I got up to 2300 and got some very easy puzzles and when I first started I remember a few very hard ones. It's just a random puzzle program.
Im about to go on a major tactical training project. My first thought was to use chess.com puzzle rating to track my progress but after seeing that Im not sure its a good idea to use chess.com puzzle trainer to gauge my tactical ability. Is there another tactical trainer out there somewhere that would better to use to check on my progress?
llama47 wrote:
Chess.com has a large, but finite number of puzzles. The top guys obsessively do puzzles to the point they memorize a large portion of the high rated puzzles. That's how they get so high, and they're not shy about admitting it.
it does seem kind of strange that there isnt a single titled player in the top 10.
jamesstack wrote:
Im about to go on a major tactical training project. My first thought was to use chess.com puzzle rating to track my progress but after seeing that Im not sure its a good idea to use chess.com puzzle trainer to gauge my tactical ability. Is there another tactical trainer out there somewhere that would better to use to check on my progress?
Why not chess.com? Unless you get into the very high regions, you won't have a ton of repeats. I am 2650, with a peak of 2900 and I do get repeats once in a while. I don't get them constantly though. I would recommend to stick with chess.com. If not chess.com, then use liche** (asterisks are replaced by ss).
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Hello, first post.
I have a friend who solves chess puzzles as a form of relaxation, similar to meditation. He hasn’t played a real game in many years. He said that, he knows he is obsessed with solving chess puzzles.
He enjoys because he is aware that in every position he encounters, he already knows beforehand that there’s an interesting solvable move.
I suspect the top of the leaderboard on this site have similar obsessive in traits
I have a friend who solves chess puzzles as a form of relaxation, similar to meditation. He hasn’t played a real game in many years. He said that, he knows he is obsessed with solving chess puzzles.
He enjoys because he is aware that in every position he encounters, he already knows beforehand that there’s an interesting solvable move.
I suspect the top of the leaderboard on this site have similar obsessive in traits
krazeechess wrote:
jamesstack wrote:
Im about to go on a major tactical training project. My first thought was to use chess.com puzzle rating to track my progress but after seeing that Im not sure its a good idea to use chess.com puzzle trainer to gauge my tactical ability. Is there another tactical trainer out there somewhere that would better to use to check on my progress?
Why not chess.com? Unless you get into the very high regions, you won't have a ton of repeats. I am 2650, with a peak of 2900 and I do get repeats once in a while. I don't get them constantly though. I would recommend to stick with chess.com. If not chess.com, then use liche** (asterisks are replaced by ss).
The reason is I dont feel like anybody should have a rating of over 650000.....makes me feel like its not measuring tactical ability very accurately. There is another site i found that has a tactical trainer and a leaderboard and the top guy there has a puzzle rating of 3054 which sounds more reasonable to me. Another question is though....should I even be using puzzle ratings to track my progress or should I use something else like a blitz rating?
Chess. com has limited puzzle banks 65,000. And probably 2000-3000 puzzles are in 3000+ ratings.
The trick is you get 3000+ rating first ( you can use engines too ) and then the top puzzle loops will be repeated endlessly.
Ask them to memorize 1,250,000 plus puzzles in L site.( yes it is 1.25 million puzzles).
Does the puzzle rating have a limit?
thanks for the feedback....i think what might be the thing to do is use chess24 and chess.com puzzle ratings along with some blitz games at various sites to test my tactical ability every so often.
llama47 wrote:
Chess.com doesn't ban you for cheating in puzzles.
that sort of does explain the high ratings. lol
Child_Hikaru wrote:
jamesstack wrote:
krazeechess wrote:
jamesstack wrote:
Im about to go on a major tactical training project. My first thought was to use chess.com puzzle rating to track my progress but after seeing that Im not sure its a good idea to use chess.com puzzle trainer to gauge my tactical ability. Is there another tactical trainer out there somewhere that would better to use to check on my progress?
Why not chess.com? Unless you get into the very high regions, you won't have a ton of repeats. I am 2650, with a peak of 2900 and I do get repeats once in a while. I don't get them constantly though. I would recommend to stick with chess.com. If not chess.com, then use liche** (asterisks are replaced by ss).
The reason is I dont feel like anybody should have a rating of over 650000.....makes me feel like its not measuring tactical ability very accurately. There is another site i found that has a tactical trainer and a leaderboard and the top guy there has a puzzle rating of 3054 which sounds more reasonable to me. Another question is though....should I even be using puzzle ratings to track my progress or should I use something else like a blitz rating?
The thing is, there is a cap on how hard the puzzles can get, meaning the highest rated puzzle possible for example could only be 3800. Having a puzzle rating of 65,000 doesn't mean that person is actually 65,000 puzzle strength, rather it just shows they solved a lot of 3800 puzzles.
Yeah but why dont you see such high puzzle ratings on other sites? On chess24 for example, the highest rating is only 3054. I think on the lower end the ratings are also inflated. I have a puzzle rating close to 2100 and none of my playing ratings are anywhere close to that while I feel tactics is one of the weakest parts of my game.
To get a high puzzle rating is a lot easier if you are patient enough to stay with each problem until you are pretty sure of the solution. The more patient I get the more my score goes up, (currently approaching 3200).
Also note: if you dont like a problem and you refresh the page you are not penalized. It seems they dont think it would be fair to penalize players whose connection drops out etc.
That gives you a very easy way to increase your score by only attempting problems you are confident in solving.
Having said all that... I love TT :-) Whether you limit your time for solutions and find your approximate strength at say blitz speed, or give yourself the time as though playing correspondence, I think it makes a big difference to your ability to see the common (and less common) patterns that make up chess tactics.
I identify basically 3 categories of TT puzzles that nearly all of them fall into (with a few exceptions such as the occasional defensive puzzle, or move efficiency puzzle): end game puzzles, puzzles with many candidate moves, puzzles with only a few candidate moves.
Simple things I have become better at using TT:
- check king safety
- check all candidate moves
- check queen safety
- check bringing more pieces into the attack
Amazing how simple that is, and yet after all these years I could still learn from running this check list :-)
where is the top 10 list?
My guess is that they just use the A.I. engine for all the puzzles. Because... 65000???
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Hey...ever take a look at the puzzle rating leaderboard. Pretty crazy stuff. Top guy has a rating over 65000! number two guy is rated over 46000. Maybe those two should do a simul against some engines. lol Seriously I was going to make it a goal to make it high up there on the leaderboard but that is a bit mindboggling. Maybe i could get to somewhere between 2500 and 3000 though...3000 would be in the top 1600....so maybe top 2000 would be a good long term goal...currently Im at about 2080 I think.....or maybe I should with a short term goal first....like 2200.