^ Ditto
Android vs iPhone for chess
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Okay, my brother will be getting an iPhone 5S anytime now, so maybe I can compare my Note 2 with it soon (hopefully).
magicalorb wrote:
Okay, my brother will be getting an iPhone 5S anytime now, so maybe I can compare my Note 2 with it soon (hopefully).
Please try Stockfish and SmallFIsh. Not all they're both free, they're both the strongest chess apps on the App Store. The Stockfish chess engine running behind the apps is incredibly powerful.
In particular, I really love the evaluation graphic in SmallFish. It allows me to glance my moves over the game. Really useful. Look at it yourself. I copy it from the app page.
It's already been established without any doubt that no hardware on the Android platform is remotely close to iOS in chess. Look at it yourself:
http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43212&start=310
The chess engine authors including the famous Stockfish authors and Droidfish author particulared in the discussion. According to the data collected, iOS overwhelems Android in chess. Not only iOS has better and more chess apps, the Stockfish app on iOS is stronger than Droidfish.
Look at the data yourself (copied from the link)
Iphone 5s (2 64bit cores 1.3 ghz) 1.152.000
Note 3 (4 cores) 581.000 new
iPhone 5s beats the latest gadget from Samsung by 100%. This proves the Samsung devices are slower than Apple.
Samsung is well known for misleading its customers because the company know their customers wouldn't know anything when it comes to the phone performance. What they do is - they build more cores but each of the core uses some outdated technology. Overall, their phones are slower than iPhone. It's a number trick to create an impression that they have the best hardware.
magicalorb wrote:
Disclaimer:
I currently have had Note 2 for a year and I'm more than happy. I haven't tried iPhone yet. DroidFish is all what you need - its just too good.
64 bits in iPhone 5S is really a hype. Android - Apple war is long over, with Android being the victor. (Out in the global market) As said earlier, you really need atleast 4 GB RAM for it to take any effect. I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung comes up with 64 bit with 4 GB RAM with Quadcore/Octacore soon. (Note3 currently has 3GB)
I'm really surprised that nobody mentioned S4 has a whooping 4 Cores! (4 + 4 but I believe it will use only 4) iPhones lack # of cores and RAM - and plus, S4 has a faster clock rate - so all in one, it will search much faster, and much more positions, which is what you want.
So hardware-wise S4 wins hands down, imo.
It would be great if somebody posted some results about the two, NOT the speed comparisons of S4 and iPhone, (as its NOT related to chess in any way) but something related to chess. (Nobody really cares about their responsive to touch - its all of OS. Android is obviously slower as its in Java. Anyhow, they're all fast these days and you can't really make much difference.)
Both phones are, great. Both have same engine, Stockfish DD. You won't lose out in any way if you buy either one. Its just a matter of personal taste :-)
PS) I'd be willing to play Android - iPhone 12 match series with my Note 2 if you want. It'll be interesting :-)
Don't be fooled by Samsung, a copy-cat of Apple. They've just been fined by the US court for stealing ideas from iPhone. Look at the data I post above, Samsung IS very far behind Apple in hardware. While Apple invents new ideas , Samsung does nothing but just cheat.
In chess, Apple is Magnus Carlsen while Samsung is the cheating Borislav Ivanov. Do you really think Borislav can beat the World Champion?
@ computingforhelp: Well, isn't it an irony that Samsung makes chips for the iPhones? xD.
Samsung come a long way innovating lots of great ideas such as SPen, SHealth, etc. The pen is so handy when taking notes in a lecture. What did apple do after Steve Jobs? Apple's pretty much dead. You keep saying Apple hardware is best but I don't think they're great imo. Take S4 and give it iOS7. Should beat iPhone by a huge margin. (assuming the hardware in S4 is compatible with the software)
Okay. Let's forget Samsung. Would you say all Android Hardware is bad? But trust me, its just the software you're looking. C is faster than Java. Period.
Its true that there were lots of lawsuits regarding the two companies and others. I believe this subject doesn't belong here, it deserves another thread on its own. And, to call a company a cheat just by the result of some series of controversial rulings aren't nice. And they're just in the US. Just one ruling in a country doesn't say all those things. Is a world comprised of only one, nation? I fear not. And what is really funny is that if you look closely, Apple is copying Samsung even today like things such as screen size, marketing, etc. yet you fail to notice.
Well, let's not play favourites but come back to the discussion:
I've seen your link regarding the benchmark is concerned. It really was a long thread. I tested my Note 2 (N7100) - it got better nps than Note 3. You might ask how?? I don't know myself. But that Note 3 (in the discussion link) was the one sold in US; the one with the Exynos chip [International version] should get better benchmark though. He should have enabled Power mode off to get better nps. Can you tell me where you got that benchmark for iPhone 5S? I couldn't find it but since Objective C is faster than Java so I'm not so surprised.
Lastly, I don't think there's a point in talking. All what we're doing is saying hypothetical things out of the blue. I say we get into action. There's a famous proverb in my country saying : "You don't know how long the thread is, unless you measure it". This translates to the following: Even if something "seems" better, you don't know which is better until you face the two.
I will end it by saying: "Who knew Houdini would lose in the nTCEC?"
I don't mind challenging you - how much do you think you'll beat Droidfish by? Since it searches twice as many - perhaps 8:4 in a match of 12 games?
Dec 30, 2013
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I think ChessBase is the best mobile chess soft for pgn databases and analysis but here Android is much better than iOS version.
Jeez. No person here will own an android and recommend an iphone. Or vice versa.
The answers will therefore be pretty much meaningless. Everybody toots his own horn.
-Izmet