best book to learn the colle system from

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simon1138

hello,

i want to learn the colle system as it is supposed to be the best for a beginner. which book would be best to read from. i have looked at that dave rudel book. he has a few about the colle. zuke em is the main one i think. then there are a few others that i think were released after and are supposed to be improvements though i am not sure. 

there are other colle books, i think there is a starting out book which from its description "starting out" would suggest a good book to "start out" with. 

i have read on here somewhere that dave rudels book is not too good though. someone mentioned that his book is all statistics and comments on what others have written. i would like to learn something about the opening, something that is solid and proven to be a good idea.

any suggestions, i got some amazon vouchers for crimbo and looking for a nice shiney new book.

thanks

simon

notmtwain

Crimbo?

simon1138

really? 

christmas!

Diakonia

Either the "Starting Out" series, or the Move By Move" book is fine.

notmtwain
simon1138 wrote:

really? 

christmas!

I guessed that but I have never seen it previously.

opiejames

You probably can learn from you tube videos available free.  The Colle is a good opening for class C and below because it's easy to understand the strategy.  However, have an alternate strategy in case black fianchettos the KB.  IMHO the Colle is weak against that defense.

RussBell

I think these are the best books to seriously learn and play the Colle System....

"Starting Out: The Colle" by Richard Palliser...

this features the Colle-Koltanowski variation (aka "Standard" Colle)....

https://www.amazon.com/Starting-Out-Colle-Richard-Palliser/dp/1857445279/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1482887080&sr=1-1&keywords=colle+system

"Starting Out" d-pawn Attacks" by Richard Palliser...

This features the Colle-Zukertort variation.....

https://www.amazon.com/Starting-Out-Attacks-Colle-Zukertort-Everyman/dp/1857445783/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1482887271&sr=1-1&keywords=d+pawn+attacks

"A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire" by Aaron Summerscale & Sverre Johnsen...

This is a complete opening repertoire for White, featuring the Colle-Zukertort...

https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Chess-Opening-Repertoire-enlarged/dp/1906454183/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1906454183&pd_rd_r=9JZZRF6ZJ44M7B5Y5H1Q&pd_rd_w=E9NJW&pd_rd_wg=sgdaE&psc=1&refRID=9JZZRF6ZJ44M7B5Y5H1Q

I would only consider Lakdawala's Colle System books if I found these books lacking, which I think is doubtful.  (I'm not a big fan of Lakdawala as a serious chess book author - but as more of a chess raconteur)....

kindaspongey

Possibly helpful:

Starting Out: The Colle by Richard Palliser (2007)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627040050/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen103.pdf

The Colle: Move by Move by Cyrus Lakdawala (2013)

"... Great ..." - FM Carsten Hansen (2013)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627110453/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen169.pdf

First Steps: Colle and London Systems by Cyrus Lakdawala (2016)

Starting Out: d-Pawn Attacks by Richard Palliser (2008)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140626165651/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen118.pdf

Zuke 'Em, The Colle-Zukertort Revolutionized by David Rudel (2009)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627053117/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen130.pdf

The Zukertort System: A Guide for White and Black by Grigory Bogdanovich (2010)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627131000/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen143.pdf

A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire by Aaron Summerscale & Sverre Johnsen (2010)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627030157/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen133.pdf

The Moment of Zuke by Dave Rudel (2009)

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627030157/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen133.pdf

Fromper

I really like Zuke Em if that's the line of the Colle you want to play. Higher level players look down on both the book and the opening, because they're not high level play, but it's a good enough opening for class level, and that book provides very good explanation of how to play it.

1uplifts

i was wondering how you Colle experience is going

 

jjupiter6

I don't think the OP would be in the habit of regularly checking his 4 year old thread.

simon1138

Hello,

i read a few different books about the colle and landed more on the london system and still using that when ever i play as white. i have learnt a few things by playing. i find reading chess books to be a difficult task that takes a lot of focus. where as online learning platforms are quicker and easier, also cheaper. the london system seems easier to learn and better than the colle as i found there are some regular themes.

1uplifts

Hello ,  

I too have read a few books about the colle and the London.   But i still prefer to play the Colle, not because of how good it is but so many are unfamiliar with it.  

Von-Skoda

@simon1138, I have two books on the colle system. One is Rudel's Phoenix Attack and the other is Colle: move by move by Cyrus Lakdawala. I find that Lakdawala's book is more like a repertoire book, which is nice for learning the different transpositions and setups. Meanwhile, Rudel's book goes more in-depth of the c3 colle than Lakdawala's book, so I find the both compliment each other. 

If I had to choose only one, though, I'd choose Lakdawala. 

Hope this helps, VS

Fromper

When I used to play the Colle, my biggest problem was that I never got to actually play the Colle. Black would play openings that avoided it (usually anything with g6 and Bg7) so often that I only ever got to play the Colle maybe 10% of the time. That's the main reason I abandoned it.

1uplifts

i don't have that problem