Can Anyone Identify either of the Chess Sets?

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IpswichMatt

Hello

 

Please have a look at the photo below, can anyone tell me anything about this set? I believe it is made of bone. The pieces are comprised of two or three parts which screw together - see the photo of the Rook which I have taken apart. Anyone know the purpose of this? Is this known as a "barley corn" set ?null

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IpswichMatt

Here's another set. This is a large (King 4.5 inches) weighted set. The Rooks and the Knights are nullnot marked. The Rooks have 5 crenelations, the pawns have very thin (and therefore very broken) collars. The Queens are particularly distinctive with very wide nullnullnull15 point crowns. 

If anyone has any idea who the maker is I would be grateful. I do know that this set is very similar to a photo of the set used in the 1886 (post 10 of this thread https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chess-sets-used-in-both-unofficial-and-official-world-championships)

 

tmkroll

These seem to be antiques. The top could be called a barleycorn set, or some people would call it plain barleycorn or ropetwist or some such because the barrels of the royal pieces are not decorated with ornamental turning but just have simple turning on them. It has some characteristics of a barleycorn and some of other types of English sets. It's made in several pieces that screw together due to the material. Cow bones are hollow and not generally chess piece shaped. You end up with thin sections, flat sections, and hollow tubes. These are pieced together to make chessmen. This is also sometimes done with ivory and I think the process there is not simply to save material but also to facilitate turning thin shapes without having to work around other things. It looks at first glance like your set may be a composite with some bits of some pieces not original to the set. You could post some better pictures. The other set I don't know... it looks like an antique Staunton but I think you know that already.

IpswichMatt

Brilliant reply tmkroll, thanks for that. It never occurred to me that these were made in several pieces in order to save material, but it makes perfect sense. 

Which pictures should I take which would enable you to see whether this is a composite set?

tmkroll

I guess just closer clearer pictures of each piece compared to each of the same piece. At first it seems from your picture that the stems of the Kings are different but a closer look shows that's some kind of glue. At the moment it seems perhaps the two pawns in front don't quite match but there can be variation in hand turning anyway and it could just be that particular picture playing tricks with my eyes again. I'd have to get a better look at the set. 

IpswichMatt

Good spot tmkroll, the White King has indeed been glued. Looking at my photo I see what you mean about the pawns looking different but I think this is largely due to camera distortion, I was up close with my phone camera.

Thanks for giving your opinion on this set - I think I know enough to put it on ebay now.

The staunton set I'm planning to restore and keep. I'd love to know the maker but have to accept that I will probably never find out.

Vertwitch

BEAUTIFUL PIECES, RESTORE IT AND MAKE IT A GREAT CHESS SET

 

 

AGAIN! OU YEAH CHESS4EVA

chessspy1

I see I am a little late to this particular forum.

The knight in the bone set has some of the details (well-defined mane e.g.) which indicate it may have been one of the Jaques made sets. ref Jaques so-called 1849 catalogue pages.

IpswichMatt

Thanks. I'm still none the wiser as to who the maker is though. I doubt if I'll ever find out either, but that's often the way with these Victorian sets.