Favorite Fritz Trainer Software?

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TheAdultProdigy

I am really becoming enamoured of these Fritz Training software.  I got Andrew Martin's "ABCs of the Ruy Lopez," and I liked it a lot.  (I have only ever previous gone through "Starting Out: the Ruy Lopez.")  I just watched the samples from from Mikhail Marin's "Power Strategy" volume 1 and 2, and I LOVED THEM!  I am going to order them.

 

I am surprised that these pieces of software are so good.  Do you have any that you've liked or loved in the Fritz Trainer series?

I_Am_Second

Daniel Kings videos are very good.

TheAdultProdigy
I_Am_Second wrote:

Daniel Kings videos are very good.

Ah, wow.  I hadn't even seen those.  (I can't find an exhaustive list of Fritz Trainer software, which is odd.  Seems like a basic marketing faux pas, if there isn't such a catalog.)  Very good recommendation.  I like the titles.

adumbrate

why not go to the  chess.com video collection

I_Am_Second
Milliern wrote:
I_Am_Second wrote:

Daniel Kings videos are very good.

Ah, wow.  I hadn't even seen those.  (I can't find an exhaustive list of Fritz Trainer software, which is odd.  Seems like a basic marketing faux pas, if there isn't such a catalog.)  Very good recommendation.  I like the titles.

If you go to chessbase.com, you will find the videos there.

TheAdultProdigy
I_Am_Second wrote:
Milliern wrote:
I_Am_Second wrote:

Daniel Kings videos are very good.

Ah, wow.  I hadn't even seen those.  (I can't find an exhaustive list of Fritz Trainer software, which is odd.  Seems like a basic marketing faux pas, if there isn't such a catalog.)  Very good recommendation.  I like the titles.

If you go to chessbase.com, you will find the videos there.

Not all of them, right?  I am pretty sure I've seen a bunch that are not on there, maybe ones they don't produce anymore.

TheAdultProdigy
skotheim2 wrote:

why not go to the  chess.com video collection

Oh, I am, but (to be honest) navigating and finding what I would want is a pain in the tail.  There's got to be a slightly better way for them to organize their content, but I think organization is a major difficult in the information age, as my friends in the School of Information science tell me; which is to say, it's not chess.com's fault.  I've been doing the chess visualization videos by IM Danny Rensch.

 

To be clear, chess.com doesn't have any of the Fritz Trainer videos on here do they?

adumbrate
Milliern wrote:
skotheim2 wrote:

why not go to the  chess.com video collection

Oh, I am, but (to be honest) navigating and finding what I would want is a pain in the tail.  There's got to be a slightly better way for them to organize their content, but I think organization is a major difficult in the information age, as my friends in the School of Information science tell me; which is to say, it's not chess.com's fault.  I've been doing the chess visualization videos by IM Danny Rensch.

 

To be clear, chess.com doesn't have any of the Fritz Trainer videos on here do they?

Well, not the exact same videos but much of the same content! There are a lot of rook ending videos, pawn structure videos, endgame videos, opening videos, game analysis, pawn storms. A lot. There are much more themes aswell, but those are what I look on the most.

rkjulian

Aren't all the ChessBase trainer programs here:

http://shop.chessbase.com/en/categories/training

I seem to keep finding things to buy.  I find the CB material is much more interactive than the more passive DVDs or videos (although I love the chess.com videos - a tremendously wide range of topics).

TheAdultProdigy
rkjulian wrote:

 I find the CB material is much more interactive than the more passive DVDs or videos (although I love the chess.com videos - a tremendously wide range of topics).

I completely agree.

 

Thanks.  I didn't realized that page was exhaustive.  

kmai19149

the annotators are often boring and never really go deep in the lines, it's like they just made the DVD in a haste and are just trying to get you money

SeniorPatzer

I don't understand.  Is it software or a video?   Like a dvd that you get from redbox and  watch  a movie?  If so, why call it a software video?

TheAdultProdigy
kmai19149 wrote:

the annotators are often boring and never really go deep in the lines, it's like they just made the DVD in a haste and are just trying to get you money

It depends what you get.  If you watch Heine's two-volume Fritz Trainer on the Sicilian Dragon, he extensively covers variations in the Stocek exchange sacrifice, for example.  If that, in it's 25+-move depth is not enough for you, you are spending way too much time on openings.

 

The production quality, editing, and content is amazing.  The decision-making and thought that goes into deciding what will comprise the content simply can't be outdone.  

TheAdultProdigy
SeniorPatzer wrote:

I don't understand.  Is it software or a video?   Like a dvd that you get from redbox and  watch  a movie?  If so, why call it a software video?

The Trainers are software before they are videos.  The programs are designed to tell ChessBase what moves to make on the board in the CB GUI.  If you have any questions that aren't answered by the Fritz Trainer, you can hit pause on the video portion, move the pieces and try to figure things out.  Or you can hit the database button to see how often and with what success certain moves have been made; and, if all else fails, you can use the engines you have in your kibitzer ribbon.  The Fritz Trainers usually have test positions, too, where reasonable moves are commented upon by the annotator after each selection, and the correct answer has a clip about why the move was good.  There are PGN collections also in the Fritz Trainers, which are more about the games chosen than they are about the collection of PGNs.  However, if you don't have the biggest database CB provides, the Fritz Trainers have all the annotated PGNs that you would otherwise not have access to.  The state of the art CB database refreshes with new annotations and games with each update of the software, so those PGNs are more valuable to players who don't go all out with the CB database.

SeniorPatzer

Oh.  Just to check my understanding.   You have to play these software videos on your computer and computer monitor with Chessbase loaded.

 

You just can't buy a Fritz Trainer video dvd by itself into a dvd player, nor can you put it in your computer without also having Chessbase loaded.  That's right, right?

TheAdultProdigy
SeniorPatzer wrote:

Oh.  Just to check my understanding.   You have to play these software videos on your computer and computer monitor with Chessbase loaded.

 

You just can't buy a Fritz Trainer video dvd by itself into a dvd player, nor can you put it in your computer without also having Chessbase loaded.  That's right, right?

Correct.  The video portion is only of the annotator talking, and the board is exhibited through the CB GUI.  I don't think a DVD player will even play the annotator.  You need CB, but if you don't, they have a dowbloadable sort of "CB light" that can make the Fritz Trainer watchable.

SeniorPatzer

Thanks for verifying.  

 

P.S. I do remember reading your unhappy review of Jon Edwards' Chessbase book on Amazon.

TheAdultProdigy
SeniorPatzer wrote:

 

P.S. I do remember reading your unhappy review of Jon Edwards' Chessbase book on Amazon.

There are endless basic things I don't know how to do in CB, and you'd think that such a book would bring someone like me up to speed.  Instead, he shows lots of pictures of ribbons, and then explains how the ribbon with "opening book" creates and opening book.  Great bit of use that trash was.  Sadly, I got it in Kindle format, so I couldn't sell it or burn it.  

cghori

The Fritz trainers are the best way to improve your game, in my opinion.  Another neat option is that you can run the engine while the guy is talking to see how his analysis stacks up.  Highly recommended.  I personally like the Maurice Ashley and Danny King series.

TheAdultProdigy
cghori wrote:

 I personally like the Maurice Ashley and Danny King series.

Ashley's 3-volume What Grandmasters Don't See fundamentally changed my game.