GoChess Smart board?

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salutjb

Do you think this Go Chess smart board is a gimmick?

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gochess-most-powerful-chess-board-ever-invented?utm_medium=email&utm_content=receipt-campaign_link&utm_source=lifecycle&utm_campaign=contribution_receipt#/updates/all

KingGoKnightKnight

No. It not a gimmick. I have a Chessnut Air and I really enjoy it. I know you can play a game and mimics the board to the computer screen, but I really enjoy playing chess and not having to look at a screen. It works really well too.

chesslover0003

I’ve done some research on this and other crowdfunding projects. I’ve seen some suspicious claims and posts on these forums as well.

1) the product has not delivered

2) the product is still unproven

It seems gimmicky to me but I’ll let you decide once it delivers.

please see my advisory about crowdfunding. https://www.chess.com/blog/chesslover0003/beware-of-chess-related-crowdfunding-projects

Denys-de-Nice

So, is GoChess a scam or not?
I was about to place an order, but I saw some negative reviews on the forum, and now I'm not sure what to do.

Can someone provide an objective opinion and let me know what legal options I have to get my money back if I never receive the chessboard (aside from filing a lawsuit, which wouldn't be worth the trouble)?

chesslover0003
Denys-de-Nice wrote:

So, is GoChess a scam or not?
I was about to place an order, but I saw some negative reviews on the forum, and now I'm not sure what to do.

Can someone provide an objective opinion and let me know what legal options I have to get my money back if I never receive the chessboard (aside from filing a lawsuit, which wouldn't be worth the trouble)?

I think there's a lot of red flags for the project.

To me, a scam would be creating a campaign to intentionally deceive members with no intention of delivering a project. This would include creating deceptive images, videos or updates to mislead on the progress or product. Are they guilty of this? Were demos smoke and mirrors to show a working product (I sometimes confuse projects so I can't recall for GoChess without looking at my past notes).

Is it a scam to create a project with every intention of delivering a product but eventually fail to do that? I do not think this is a scam and it can be hard to prove otherwise. It's hard for some projects to admit failure, however, continuing to solicit donations when you know you can't or won't deliver is a scam.

This is a crowdfunding project... you did not purchase the board. You funded the project with the expectation that the project may never deliver or meet your expectations (you read the terms and conditions for the crowdfunding site right?). I'm sorry if this is harsh... the project has no obligation to refund your money.

Denys-de-Nice

Okay, in that case, if I don't get my money back after purchasing a chessboard that isn't delivered, I would call that a scam.

Thank you for setting things straight.

I'll pass for now, too bad.

Is it possible to buy an electronic chessboard that moves pieces automatically in a reliable manner?

The Square Off Swap chessboard seems to be out of service; I'm looking for a similar model to enjoy playing chess. If anyone has any suggestions.

bugoff86

It isn't a scam. They have already delivered gochess lite. The 1xr and 4xr are in development with shipping planned for April. They have had some delays. I purchased the 4xr with extra pieces and the warranty. I can't wait to get it. They have already successfully created godice, gocube, and a motion board with crowd funding.

nik1111
KingGoKnightKnight wrote:

No. It not a gimmick. I have a Chessnut Air and I really enjoy it. I know you can play a game and mimics the board to the computer screen, but I really enjoy playing chess and not having to look at a screen. It works really well too.

"GoChess" not to be mixed up with "Chessnut Go"...

chesslover0003
bugoff86 wrote:

It isn't a scam. They have already delivered gochess lite. The 1xr and 4xr are in development with shipping planned for April. They have had some delays. I purchased the 4xr with extra pieces and the warranty. I can't wait to get it. They have already successfully created godice, gocube, and a motion board with crowd funding.

I think GoChess is intending to deliver a smart board with robotic movement. I'm not convinced in the technology.

It's nice to see GoChess Lite as people can see what the software experience might be. I think this is a good MVP for any project to achieve e before doing more complex robotic movements.

I don't think mini "Roomba"-like devices inside the board will deliver a good experience.

Graham_NZ

The Chessnut Move is on pre-order now too and Chessnut have a good track record with eBoards. Remember that the hardware is only half of the product, the other half being the connectivity and software support. I have no idea what the GoChess app is like, but Chessnut is widely supported on many platforms with established software. I think I'll be getting my prototype in late January or early February so I can start writing my driver for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3oF9S0ZNX4

bugoff86
chesslover0003 wrote:
bugoff86 wrote:

It isn't a scam. They have already delivered gochess lite. The 1xr and 4xr are in development with shipping planned for April. They have had some delays. I purchased the 4xr with extra pieces and the warranty. I can't wait to get it. They have already successfully created godice, gocube, and a motion board with crowd funding.

I think GoChess is intending to deliver a smart board with robotic movement. I'm not convinced in the technology.

It's nice to see GoChess Lite as people can see what the software experience might be. I think this is a good MVP for any project to achieve e before doing more complex robotic movements.

I don't think mini "Roomba"-like devices inside the board will deliver a good experience.

I think it'll work. They have prototypes that work. I did purchase the extended warranty in case of issues though. I honestly can't wait to get mine. I'm excited for it to help me improve. I started in the 400 range and am up to 800 elo. I want to get into the 2000 range or atleast 1500 but i know I have my work cut out for me.

Madlibvibe

I bought myself the Gochess lite for christmas and it works fine. I've played it paired with chess.com and had no problems. No glitches in numerous games. The only annoying thing with the app is it doesn't remember your difficulty settings so you have to re- select them every game. It only takes a second so not really that much of an issue.

I've never used chessnut so I can't compare, but I liked the look of the gochess board so went for that one. Seems to work fine for me! 😊👍

PittellaMD
Madlibvibe escreveu:

I bought myself the Gochess lite for christmas and it works fine. I've played it paired with chess.com and had no problems. No glitches in numerous games. The only annoying thing with the app is it doesn't remember your difficulty settings so you have to re- select them every game. It only takes a second so not really that much of an issue.

I've never used chessnut so I can't compare, but I liked the look of the gochess board so went for that one. Seems to work fine for me! 😊👍

Is it possible to turn off the LED lights on the board? 
How does it work paired with Chess.com?

gnurent

Is it possible to use gochess lite with chess.com and ios? It seems it use the gochess app to connect to chess.com, but I don't know if works

JAT71

Análisis de Gochess vs Chessnut

Tomando los de categoría superior:

Gochess Classic 4XR con 4 robots que se mueven por debajo del tablero de forma que tienen la capacidad de ejecutar un movimiento cada uno a la vez y hasta que no terminan esa secuencia los 4 no pueden iniciar la siguiente

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuTm8GniTo

La última fecha de entrega la han demorado para Junio del 2025

Si falla cualquiera de los 4 robots puede significar que se bloquee puesto que los otros 3 es posible que no puedan acceder a una pieza

A favor que carga con un solo conector usb Gochess, 2 Extra Queens, 2 pouches y un atril para poner Tablet /móvil- Bluetooth

ChessNut tiene Wireless 5 y Bluetooth , micrófono y Speaker (Mono)

Extra Queens ??

Chessnut duración Batería tablero up to 8 horas y Batería Piezas up to 8 horas-Procesador Quad Core Cortex A53

Gochess no están sirviendo tableros, y lo han demorado mucho.

No tienes acceso a los robots con lo que si se estropean que harás ¿? Mientras que Chessnut si se estropea alguna pieza entiendo que es más fácil sustituirla…

Hay códigos de descuento para Chessnut a través de Youtubers y en la Web, para Gochess en la web

Lo de tener que pagar gastos de envío es feo por parte de Gochess, podían haberlos dejado dentro del precio, pero no que puedas cobrar al cliente precios desorbitados por el envío.

Estéticamente creo mejor efectivamente Gochess , aunque las piezas son alargadas para que puedan pasar entre las otras cuando se mueven.

Me gustaría probar en la realidad y no sólo lo que vemos en videos.

El tema de leds RGB me parece acertado por parte de Gochess y sirve para aprender y enseñar.

En ChessNut es un led por casilla

Ambos tienen otros tableros por lo que entiendo que están en el sector y es la evolución lógica en Ajedrez, aparte de la indispensable IA, esta última recuerdo que va a condicionar cada vez más.

Parece más rápido el sistema de posicionamiento de Chessnut , unos 12 segundos por unos 40 segundos de ChessGo, aunque están evolucionando

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuTm8GniTo

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tFGBLHhcEeo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q85LqVfPhhU último video hace 2 semanas

El tema de control por voz también me decanta hacia Chessnut, no sé si Gochess lo tiene.

Además es de código abierto Chessnut

No tiene reconocimiento de piezas Gochess

Garantía de 1 año y 69 Euros por ampliar otro en Gochess

Cuando quede poco para el envío dará mas opciones Chessnut entiendo para ampliación de garantía, ya lo tiene para otros productos.

Perdón por el desorden y esto es sólo una recopilación ,que puede variar en cualquier momento, un saludo.