Is Silman tedious for everyone or just me?

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ILLYRIA

That Silman guy has written over 7000 books on chess, and he has his readers and fans I would hope, or else that's a lot of paper he's used up for no reason.

But I find it to be too much--To have to use a board to follow along with every single page!  It's an unreadable book.   With other chess books, I've been able to follow the action described by looking at the diagrams and occasionally slowing down to think through one of the lines in text form only.  This guy I can't just read through, it's too dense.

 But I guess people say that about Shakespeare too.  Is Silman the Shakespeare of chess, turning out truly helpful books for those who hunker down and do what it takes to work through the text?   Or is he the Robert Jordan of chess, just cranking out volume after volume of tedious text for those who've acquired a taste for that?

Have you benefited from his stuff personally?   Or did you get done and ask "Okay, now what was any of that?"

 

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Phelon

After reading "the amateurs mind" by Silman my OTB rating went from 1333 uscf to 1584 and just recently 1655. His books are truly helpful and very easy to understand/read through, but you do in fact need to play the moves out on the board, as I had assumed you had to do with any book if you were studying chess Wink.

Phelon

the exception being tactical puzzle books

Rhinotillexomaniac

I received "How To Reassess Your Chess" as a Christmas present.

I have only gotten through the first couple chapters.  I will say they have been very beneficial to me.  I have re-read the first three chapters several times.

I am an industrial manager.  I read technical documents for a living.  The more technical the writing the better as far as I am concerned.  For me, this may mean that several reviews are necessary to gain all the value I can but it is how I tick anyway.

In my opinion any technical book should take effort to get everything out of it.  In this case, if it were easy your opponents would already be using his methods to crush your skull.

Think of it like panning for gold.  There's almost surely another nugget in that stream.

porkscrew

I own his book "Reassess Your Chess" and have found it to be very helpful, but at the same time tedious.

Illyria, we have the same idea. I have to use a small magnetic board to play through his analysis.

__Anubis_Haddad__

I  can only say that I got 300 rating points the first month i studied Jeremy Silman in the first month... got to be good

UrWorstKnightMare

I'm reading "How to Reassess Your Chess" and only had time to get through the first few chapters. But some of it makes crystal clear sense to me and then other things I'll have to re-read several times to understand. And yes, you will definately need to have a board on hand to see the examples he shows. It is tedious but worth it from what I've heard. Good luck. Smile

joetheplumber

I like Silman, but yes, you do need a board to play it out on.

if you find it too tedious, find another author. Different people require different kinds of books, so if Silman doesnt work for you, try fischer. You dont need a board for his most popular book, BFTC.

Cratercat

Silman's books are dense, but the guy's writing about a dense subject, particularly with "Amateur's Mind" & "How to Reassess Your Chess". Both of those books are primarily about the middlegame and positional/strategical chess ideas. One could easily spend a whole year or more alone studying either of those texts. Unless one quits their day job or you're a natural prodigy, don't expect to absorb the contents of those books in a month.

You can still read those books though more casually or "on the go" and still glean "nuggets" as Rhinotillexomaniac said.

I also think most of Silman's "Complete Endgame Course" could be read without the use of a board, but personally a nice small magnetic chess set isn't that much of a hassle to use while reading. I've gotten the most benefit from this book, but his positional ideas found in "How to Reassess" have also helped me with strategical planning. 

jacobphilipoom

I got Silman's Complete Book of Chess Strategy for Christmas last week and it's already really helped me. I can't put it down. It was hard to get into, but definitely worth it.  At first i used the chess.com game explorer or "insert analysis board" to visualize, but now that i'm used to his writing style i don't even need to.  I would recommend Silman's work.  By far the best chess book i've ever read.

Chessroshi

i've found Yasser Seirawans (spelling?) books to be rather nice. Silman stuff is good for ideas, some of the variation analysis is off. What I learned from Silman is to be sober at the board. So often when we are starting out in chess we get caught in these flights of fancy and imagine wonderful attacks, but too often these marvelous creations are not borne of logic, but rather our boredom. Silman helped me think about giving the chess position what it needs, instead of trying to extract from it what I wanted.

ILLYRIA
joetheplumber wrote:

Iif Silman doesnt work for you, try fischer. You dont need a board for his most popular book, BFTC.


 Got it.   'Bob Teaches Chess' is the readable kind of book I used to think was cool, back before all of you hipped me to how I should be focussing on the 'ordeal' style books.   I recommend Bob very hard for people who want the best introduction to crushing moves, which y'all seem to call "tactics" 'round these parts.

donngerard

guess so

TheGrobe

I've always thought, for the very reasons that prompted the original poster's post, that the game boards on chess.com's forums and blogs were incredibly conducive to really bringing some of the tedious material in these classic books to life making them much, much more accessible.  Sadly, the impediment to making this a reality likely lies with copyright issues.

amac7079

if you are trying to learn then how can you work out the alternate lines without a board? if you read John Nunn you really need a board or an very strong ability to visualize. i expect silman is the same. do the silman chess mentor lessons and see if you have the same issue. i find him to be very clear and insightful.

Endgame_Clothing

I think Silman is about as good as it gets as far as clarity and enjoyment.  There are some of his early "pamphlets" that are tough to read, but any of his "real" books are great!  Definitely recommend "Amateurs Mind."

John.

Spiffe

It probably depends what books you're reading.  Like many chess professionals, Silman is a prolific writer, of varied quality.  He has has "classics" like How to Reassess Your Chess or the new endgame book, which most people to find to be quite good.  And then there are a pile of opening manuals which... well, one of the primary aims may have been to pay the bills.

If you are talking about those popular books, then "dense"-ness and unreadability are criticisms I find odd -- I think his best books are actually pretty heavily loaded on diagrams compared to most other popular instructional books (e.g., My System or The Art of Attack in Chess).  Playing through the moves on a real board is just something you have to do with any book of sufficiently advanced material to get the most out of it.

Maradonna

I've read Silman stuff and other books where a board is needed. It takes ages to get through some stuff but I love that - a 200 page book lasts as long as a normal 800 page book, therefore, I feel that I'm getting more bang for my buck :)

Vulkar

Hello all,

Currently I'm about half-way through Silman's How to Reasses Your Chess. It's the first chess book I've ever read so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I find it quite informative.

Using a board to follow along is without a question a requirement of my being able to comprehend his lessons. That said, he's really changed the way in which I think about my pieces and changed my way of playing to looking for goals to improve my position. Before, I'd just kind of hop around the board with my knights until I'd achieve an advantageous position...or got slaughtered. Now, I really have a focus and am able to find targets and goals. I don't have enough data to claim a numerical improvement, but I like the way I'm playing now better than before.

However, I can tell you to truly understand everything he's espousing, I'll have to read the book several times, which is what he said in the intro so it only makes sense. As others have said, it's a lot of bang for your buck, though you HAVE to work to get through it.

ILLYRIA

I looked closer at the book and it's actually by Eric Schiller.

Complete Defense to Queen Pawn Openings.

I've got a board set up in the bathroom now, and will use it as a bathroom book.  So I guess the focus for me should be eating a lot of KFC and chili and getting my dump on.

On the bright side, it sounds like this Silman guy is great.  He'll be the next one I check out.  Then pretty soon I'll start thinking like everyone else!   Thanks for the recommendations.