Judit Polgar How I beat Fischer's record

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Alec739

I had to wait 4-5 weeks for this book it was slow going around mid December it finally arrived at the door in a cardboard box with the plastic still on it from Quality Chess in the United Kingdom I was so excited to open the box to get at it.

It was worth the wait it's a really beautiful book when I ran my hand over it the first time when I took it out the box it felt like Mcfarland quality. Mcfarland publishes Chess books that are really beautiful and high in quality strong paper but are very expensive usually in the $50-$75 range like the one on Wilhem Steinitz by Kurt Landsberger and Frank Marshall United States Champion by Andrew Soltis (both excellent books by the way worth the money)  inside the book it's clear going over the games with a Chess board slowly she put alot of hard work into it and I'm learning alot from it.

I've placed the book in my library next to Steinitz's and Tal's Book on Combinations which I consider gold (not a scratch or 1 crease on it).

Worth the purchase!

fburton

Agree, it's a super book. Not only quality production but well-written (and edited) and instructive.

Rational_Optimist

i dont like title of the book.it is deceptive.she broke fischer record when it was much easier to become a grandmaster.

.fischer became a grandmaster only after his successful performance in portoroz interzonal when he was qualified for the candidates match but what about polgar?she became a grandmaster by winning hungarian national championship.

Rational_Optimist
paulgottlieb wrote:

There's nothing the least bit deceptive about the title. If your complaint is that by 1991 there were many more opportunities to obtain grandmaster norms that back in Fischer's day, so what? There were also many more strong players to contend against. There's no doubt that the 1991 Hungarian Championship was much stronger top to bottom than the field in the 1957 US Championship.

There's no question that Fischer was a greater player than Polgar (and almost anyone else in chess history), but there is also no disputing the fact  that Polgar became a grandmaster at an earlier age than Fischer. Leko and Karjaken, among others, have since beaten her record. But when Polgar became a grandmaster at the age of 15 years and 4 months, she broke a record that had stood since 1958

no,

it is illogical to compare strength of players of an era with another era.of course we had stronger players in polgar time since chess is making progress.polgar had much more material to learn.she didnt have to exprience mistakes of past players.they were pioneers and ofcourse made mistakes.in fischer era the number of tournaments which helped players to become grandmaster was few.many talented soviet players didnt become a grandmaster or became one only after they were 30.

polugayevsky became second in 1961 USSR championship.such a prestigious national championship with best players in the world.we can never have oportunity to witness such an unbelievably strong national championship but he was awarded only international master title for becoming second.

fischer played in interzonal and finished in a top place.his oponents were the best players in the world: tal,petrosian,averbach,bronstien gligoric...did polgar play in such a prestigious competition?who were polgar oponents in hungarian championship?

Rational_Optimist
paulgottlieb wrote:

Much of what you say is true, but basically irrelevant. No one is disputing that Fischer's was the greater historical accomplishment, but that's not the issue. Polgar broke Fischer's record as the youngest person to become a grandmaster. It's what the book says, and it's what she did. So to call her claim deceptive is simply nonsense.

i dont want to argue about deceptive.no one can say she didnt break his record since in fischer time it was called grandmaster and now it is still called grandmaster.but i tried to show though names are the same achievments arenot the same and this gap must be explained and understood.grandmaster title in fischer time meant diffrently.i tried to show fischer achievment was bigger since he played against the best players in the world.if she had achieved GM title in fischer time i didnt argue.names are the same but the concept behind them can change when we move forward in history.

it seems Euwe is responsible for this.Euwe became president of fide for a few years.Karpov said about him:

Euwe wanted to spread chess everywhere,to small countries to all continents.in itself this wasnot bad and I as world champion supported him in this. neither him nor I could imagine what this would lead to.He proclaimed the motto"to every country its own grandmaster" and this led not only to the inflation of grandmasters title but also to the lack of control in chess world,i.e. to the situation that we now have.

fburton

"but i tried to show though names are the same achievments arenot the same and this gap must be explained and understood.grandmaster title in fischer time meant diffrently."

Which is irrelevant to the title of Judit Polgar's book.

To those (not tesla1, obviously) who are deceived by the title into thinking - what? - that Polgar is a greater player than Fischer was? - I say more fool them!