Mark Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual , 5th Edition

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1stKnight619
I keep hearing wonderful things about this book. I've also heard that this book is also difficult. I've already read Silman's Complete Endgame Course, I'd borrowed from the public library and out of the 15 chess books I own, I realize that I have not one title on the endgame. I'm tempted to buy Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual; and I understand that there's a condensed version of the book, "Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual Fast Track Edition" with 216 pages, at half the price of 440 page book. Has anyone taken a look at the content of this version? Does it look easier to process to core concepts? Thanks and good looking out!
play4fun64

Dvoretsky Endgame Manual belong to all chess library. For studying... Wait till you reach 1800. Silmans Complete Endgame Course is more than you can chew.

1stKnight619

Thanks alot. I will buy the fast track edition of Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual, as I do not want the entire 440 page manuscript. I'm only interested in its core concepts. Besides, I also would like to take a look at Jesus De La Villas 100 Endgames You Must Know.... Silman's Endgame Course was fun! It's how I learned the Lucena and the Stairway. I'm gonna grab that one too, I get some pretty good deals pre owned on eBay, but in almost new condition.

goodspellr

All the recommendations I've seen say that it's better to go through 100 Endgames You Must Know before trying to go through Dvoretsky, and it's better to go through Silman before either of those. Dvoretsky is meant for master level and above.

1stKnight619

Yeah, that sounds like a better idea. And I even heard Carlsen put Dvoretsky's book down too.... I think I'm going to go with 100 Endgames instead., and who knows? Maybe even pick up a secondhand copy of Silman's Complete Endgame Course. But for certain, 100 Endgames next week! Thanks guys!

Falkentyne

Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual (i do not have the condensed version of this) should not be compared to Silman's book. Silman's book is entertaining and is intentionally designed to be read from beginning to end. It covers the basics of most key positions and will get you by until you become 2000+ (real life) rating and need more detailed information, especially on complicated Rook endgames and defending other endgames a pawn down.

Dvoretsky's book is designed as a reference manual; treat it like an encyclopedia. Use it to look up particular endgames that you need to study. It's far too complex to just read it like the way people used to read Fine's "Basic Chess Endings" many years ago.

1stKnight619

NM Falkentyne thank you so much for that uplift! My original intention with Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual Fast Track Edition was to add it to my chess book library to my library to be used as an encyclopedia/reference on the endgame. (I've 15 chess books and not a single title on the endgame). All my books are mostly openings, middlegame, tactics & strategy. Two Books on Tal, my personal favorite player. If there's a way I could upload a pic of my book shelf here you could see what could be lacking in my collection. But, I've got stuff by Tal, Silman, Nimzowitch, Burguess, Kaufman, DeFirmian, Rotella, Sakaev & Landa, Müller, Davies, Vukovic. I'm currently working with Sakaev & Landa's "Complete Manual of Positional Chess" Vol. 1(yeah, the black one) and it says 2100 + elo. I'm working with it slow, as I am not rated, but I'm always playing and always reading my books. I have to admit they keep me busy. Sometimes I set up the actual position on my board, sometimes on my phone using the Chessvision or Droidfish app. By the way, I heard Carlsen ditched Dvoretsky's book for Müller's Fundamental Chess Endings, how's that book? I saw it on eBay.

Falkentyne
1stKnight619 wrote:

NM Falkentyne thank you so much for that uplift! My original intention with Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual Fast Track Edition was to add it to my chess book library to my library to be used as an encyclopedia/reference on the endgame. (I've 15 chess books and not a single title on the endgame). All my books are mostly openings, middlegame, tactics & strategy. Two Books on Tal, my personal favorite player. If there's a way I could upload a pic of my book shelf here you could see what could be lacking in my collection. But, I've got stuff by Tal, Silman, Nimzowitch, Burguess, Kaufman, DeFirmian, Rotella, Sakaev & Landa, Müller, Davies, Vukovic. I'm currently working with Sakaev & Landa's "Complete Manual of Positional Chess" Vol. 1(yeah, the black one) and it says 2100 + elo. I'm working with it slow, as I am not rated, but I'm always playing and always reading my books. I have to admit they keep me busy. Sometimes I set up the actual position on my board, sometimes on my phone using the Chessvision or Droidfish app. By the way, I heard Carlsen ditched Dvoretsky's book for Müller's Fundamental Chess Endings, how's that book? I saw it on eBay.

Never heard of it.

Just downloaded it (don't ask how) to check and took a look...Seems decent enough? It's 20 years old though, so I don't know if some theory is complete, as for one thing, 6 piece tablebases weren't out yet.

Maybe Carlsen likes it because it's easier to follow, I suppose? Might be an important thing if you're in a hurry. The PDF version of the dvoretsky 5th manual I have has hyperlinks that let you jump to a chapter with the mouse. But again I don't know.

1stKnight619

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TiredTactician

Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual 5th Edition, revised by GM Karsten Müller (chessable.com) so far i have found this interactive digital format to be far more pleasant and easy than trying to make my way through a non digital endgame tome. silman's endgame book and many others can also be found there. nunn's "understanding chess endgames" as well as de la villa's "100 endgames you must know" which i can see are not as long or extensive as silman's book should also be helpful for studying dvoretsky's manual.

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