jcousins1 wrote:
exactly
"Ayres" is nothing better than a catchall to describe any old Staunton set with crown stamping that is otherwise unidentifiable.
Reproduction and Real Jaques of London Chess Set
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Just so there is no confusion from the uneducated lower middle class pretenders.
Sorry to hear about the erectile dysfunction problems. I guess that coming on top of your other family tragedies it is understandable
Jun 21, 2017
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Alan, could you do me a favor? Please quit sniping at others and talk about Chess sets and pieces and other equipment instead.
For instance I certainly would be interested in your views of some of the recent reproductions being produced and offered for sale.
I would also like to hear your thoughts on the Chavet sets.
I would also be interested in your views of the possibility of having Chess sets made in more of the non-Indian woods, maybe even finding a manufacturer in Europe or the American Continents.
I suggest that if a manufacturer in Europe would start producing Staunton reproductions and the like in European woods, they very well might sell better and be of a better quality than the vast majority of sets now being made in India.
Jun 21, 2017
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#2427
Since the off-topic, personal sniping is unwelcome to some of the equipment forum regulars, please stop.
Talk about chess equipment. That is almost always much appreciated.
OK Gottit. this is me being shtum
Hi Ron,
Cavet was a big French maker of sets up through into the 1950s at least. I don't have their dates to hand, but they seem to have only made fairly basic Staunton sets with a cfairly plainly carved knight.
I see they seem to still be in production, making an array of games according to their current catalogue.
Here is a translation of what they say:
OUR SPECIALTY: THE MANUFACTURE OF CHESS
All the parts are turned in boxwood which gives them an incomparable polish and a high resistance to shocks. It is not without reason that this material was chosen for the chess competitions.
We use exclusively the Jurassic boxwood which grows naturally in abundance in our forests.
So it may that they are making their own sets on site
I see what you all mean! I have 3 of what I like to call the Amritsar Dupes. Or chess sets in the Staunton pattern sold by just about everybody with slight difference in Knight height,Queen;s Crown,Rook shape.etc. I found in my collecting chess sets over the past 40 odd yearssome are better than others.
WILL YOU ALL PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE!!!! THIS IS A CHESS FORUM NOT A BOXING MATCH FOR THE IMMATURE! ALL THIS BS MAKES Chess.com look bad! GROW UP!JUST TALK ABOUT CHESS ONLY. IF ONE CANNOT DO SO THEN LOG OFF!!!!!
Maybe we should set up a forum called "The Colosseum," where posters can go to duke it out. At the first sign of vitriol or attack, their posting gets transferred to the Colosseum.
Those interested in blood sports can peruse the arena while the rest of us talk about chess.
Jun 23, 2017
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loubalch wrote:
Maybe we should set up a forum called "The Colosseum," where posters can go to duke it out. At the first sign of vitriol or attack, their posting gets transferred to the Colosseum.
Those interested in blood sports can peruse the arena while the rest of us talk about chess.
This could work. We could come up with some kind of platform where those duke'n it out could face each other head to head - I don't know... maybe give them each their own armies to command or something and it's blood sports 'till the end.
That's entertainment.
(I'll see myself out now)
I've been bit by the chess bug again and thought I would stop in again to ask if any of these aspects of reproduction have been attempted by now:
1. Baize instead of felt on the bottom of pieces
2. Screwed-in weights
3. Original asymmetric weighting (black is heavier than white)
4. eight points on Queen's coronet
5. pawn collars are intentionally fragile
That'st true, hand turned sets would be best in most cases to avoid cracking. I like the screwed in weights rather than glued in weights which can get loose and over time and fall out the bottom of ones pieces.
I believe Carl mentioned he's coming out w/ a special limited edition set that will use baize instead of felt. As for the issue of weights: what Robert said.
I would like the screwed in weights simply because that is the way the pieces were originally made, and the shape of those weights may affect the feel of the pieces when playing. Potential cracks don't really bother me too much, and repairs down the line appeal to me in the sense of Kintsugi:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kintsugi
(yes, I am insane)
Still, this would be less important than things like baize and the number of points on the Queen. Things which would be obvious when looking at the set and comparing it to an original.
why not just buy an original then, Jack?
There were thousands of turning shops in and around London in the 19th and early 20th century making everything from clothes horses to chess sets. The idea that we can call these sets Ayres is nonsense, and the sort of thing which we get saddled with when we let the drop shop lower middle classes call things whatever they like. They know nothing and never will because they live off the work of others. Yes I am the Almighty so watch out for the thunderbolts son.