look at the quality of those black squares in the video below, does that look good enough for an 800 euro set ?
Then you have to add additional units in order to play online or against a computer. And those units are expensive, if you can even find them. I can't find the king module available anywhere.
The chesslink module doesn't work with chess.com whereas the soon to be released dgt pegasus does. I'm dubious about the dgt quality though, the centaur feels very cheap to play with.
It's nothing new - just Millennium's addition to the already available piece recognition boards such as the Certabo and Chess Genius Exclusive. To me it just looks like a larger Chess Genius Exclusive.
I am biased as an owner of several years now, but the Certabo offers all everything that these boards do and has done for some time. In my opinion, DGT have been coasting on their market dominance with their boards for a few decades and have put zero effort into developing them (When was the last time they bothered to update drivers or add any new functionality/features to their boards? About 8 years ago?), and therefore don't deserve our money.
It's nothing new - just Millennium's addition to the already available piece recognition boards such as the Certabo and Chess Genius Exclusive. To me it just looks like a larger Chess Genius Exclusive.
I am biased as an owner of several years now, but the Certabo offers all everything that these boards do and has done for some time. In my opinion, DGT have been coasting on their market dominance with their boards for a few decades and have put zero effort into developing them (When was the last time they bothered to update drivers or add any new functionality/features to their boards? About 8 years ago?), and therefore don't deserve our money.
I agree. In your opinion though, what is the best computer board money can buy nowdays?
It's nothing new - just Millennium's addition to the already available piece recognition boards such as the Certabo and Chess Genius Exclusive. To me it just looks like a larger Chess Genius Exclusive.
I am biased as an owner of several years now, but the Certabo offers all everything that these boards do and has done for some time. In my opinion, DGT have been coasting on their market dominance with their boards for a few decades and have put zero effort into developing them (When was the last time they bothered to update drivers or add any new functionality/features to their boards? About 8 years ago?), and therefore don't deserve our money.
DGT is finally evolving their hardwood piece recognition boards - they're switching to USB-C.
And yes, the Supreme Tournament 55 IS a super-sized Exclusive.
look at the quality of those black squares in the video below, does that look good enough for an 800 euro set ?
Then you have to add additional units in order to play online or against a computer. And those units are expensive, if you can even find them. I can't find the king module available anywhere.
The chesslink module doesn't work with chess.com whereas the soon to be released dgt pegasus does. I'm dubious about the dgt quality though, the centaur feels very cheap to play with.
Either production is hampered by the pandemic, or Millennium is in the process of developing a new module. They do have a vast library of retro Mephisto Modules to select from.
https://www.chessprogramming.org/Mephisto_Module_Systems
It's nothing new - just Millennium's addition to the already available piece recognition boards such as the Certabo and Chess Genius Exclusive. To me it just looks like a larger Chess Genius Exclusive.
I am biased as an owner of several years now, but the Certabo offers all everything that these boards do and has done for some time. In my opinion, DGT have been coasting on their market dominance with their boards for a few decades and have put zero effort into developing them (When was the last time they bothered to update drivers or add any new functionality/features to their boards? About 8 years ago?), and therefore don't deserve our money.
I agree. In your opinion though, what is the best computer board money can buy nowdays?
Whichever works to meet YOUR needs.
Hi all - I just found out about the Supreme Tournament 55 Millennium Electronic Chess set and was wondering what you all think about it.
I like the fact that you don't have push down on the board to make a move which is similar to the DGT Centaur - my current favorite chess computer. However, unlike the Centaur, it is all wood and looks really nice. Unfortunately it is also very expensive and I don't like that you have to buy extra modules to be able to use all of its functionality on top of the high original cost. But is also appears that you can hook it up to Lichess and play games against live opponents which the Centaur cannot do. I wonder how stable it will be to play others online...
Thoughts?
If you must play on the Internet with a physical board natively but do not want to pay for large hardwood chess boards, then you should look at DGT's upcoming product: Pegasus.
For the same price range, if not lower, you can have one of the (equally tournament sized) DGT wooden e-boards with built-in replaceable battery (that lasts 24 hours), USB and bluetooth and choose one of the more higher quality chess pieces with piece detection. And have a working set for chess.com and many others.
To have all that at Millennium you need the Tournament 55, ChessVolt (their battery) and ChessLink (Bluetooth). And still be stuck with chess pieces of mediocre quality and a table full of boxes.
Unless you really need the lights on the board, something that will decrease in value as you gain chess notation experience, trust me. I started with Millennium products and at some point turned to DGT and no remorse here.
DGT is finally evolving their hardwood piece recognition boards - they're switching to USB-C.
And yes, the Supreme Tournament 55 IS a super-sized Exclusive.
What is your source on this?
DGT is finally evolving their hardwood piece recognition boards - they're switching to USB-C.
And yes, the Supreme Tournament 55 IS a super-sized Exclusive.
What is your source on this?
They're on their respective websites.
Found out about the DGT board when DGT pulled the information on converting serial to USB-B.
If you see the inside of the ST55's box, there are open slots/spaces for three of Millennium's products: the ChessLink, the ChessVolt and one of their chess engine modules.
Found out about the DGT board when DGT pulled the information on converting serial to USB-B.
I don't see any USB-C reference on their home use e-Board but indeed now found USB-C mentioned as a feature in their Tournament board section. Not sure if that means anything for the home use e-boards, but could hint at a (minor) product revamp indeed.
Not that USB-C is such a big change, I personally do not care really.
FWIW, the DGT Smartboard does not interface well with chess.com. It works better with Lichess, but I've had a lot of trouble hooking it up.
That's not to say I don't love it. The Pi Clock and that board are winning tech. I love my DGT board.
But I love my Millennium Genius Exclusive board too. It just works. Always. I play with the Lichess engine all the time.
The Pegasus looks promising. It will be plastic and it will be small, but if it works as well as the Centaur and the Smart Board out of the box, it will be a winner.
For the same price range, if not lower, you can have one of the (equally tournament sized) DGT wooden e-boards with built-in replaceable battery (that lasts 24 hours), USB and bluetooth and choose one of the more higher quality chess pieces with piece detection. And have a working set for chess.com and many others.
To have all that at Millennium you need the Tournament 55, ChessVolt (their battery) and ChessLink (Bluetooth). And still be stuck with chess pieces of mediocre quality and a table full of boxes.
Unless you really need the lights on the board, something that will decrease in value as you gain chess notation experience, trust me. I started with Millennium products and at some point turned to DGT and no remorse here.
But the WHOLE POINT of the lights on the board is to avoid looking at a screen as required by the DGT boards (with the nice wooden, weighted pieces). Some of us look at screens all day for work (many people do these days) and just want to play chess on a nice board WITHOUT looking back and forth at another screen. That is the beauty of the DGT Pegasus, the Chessup, the Chestnut, the SquareOff, and the Millennium 55.
I truly wish the companies other than Millennium would offer nicer pieces to play people online with. Until then, Millennium has a market niche with the Millennium Supreme Tournament 55 that allows one to feel like they are playing in an actual OTB tournament. The Square off Pro comes close, but the pieces are not very heavy at all. Nothing like truly weighted pieces.
For the same price range, if not lower, you can have one of the (equally tournament sized) DGT wooden e-boards with built-in replaceable battery (that lasts 24 hours), USB and bluetooth and choose one of the more higher quality chess pieces with piece detection. And have a working set for chess.com and many others.
To have all that at Millennium you need the Tournament 55, ChessVolt (their battery) and ChessLink (Bluetooth). And still be stuck with chess pieces of mediocre quality and a table full of boxes.
Unless you really need the lights on the board, something that will decrease in value as you gain chess notation experience, trust me. I started with Millennium products and at some point turned to DGT and no remorse here.
But the WHOLE POINT of the lights on the board is to avoid looking at a screen as required by the DGT boards (with the nice wooden, weighted pieces). Some of us look at screens all day for work (many people do these days) and just want to play chess on a nice board WITHOUT looking back and forth at another screen. That is the beauty of the DGT Pegasus, the Chessup, the Chestnut, the SquareOff, and the Millennium 55.
I truly wish the companies other than Millennium would offer nicer pieces to play people online with. Until then, Millennium has a market niche with the Millennium Supreme Tournament 55 that allows one to feel like they are playing in an actual OTB tournament. The Square off Pro comes close, but the pieces are not very heavy at all. Nothing like truly weighted pieces.
Technically, all sets with piece recognition cannot be heavily weighted since heavy weights, lead or proprietary, will interfere with the electronics. This is why all the beautiful wooden pieces with piece recognition by DGT, HOS or NOJ still feel light.
ChessNut has a do-it-yourself solution to be used on anyone's choice of chess pieces, but they disclose that it will require workshop skills. Here is one owner's upload of how he did it.
The electronics in the Millennium chess pieces can be cannibalized for use in other pieces unless they sell the chips separately nowadays.
One chess.com user posted their journey to upgrade their chess pieces by simply pasting the chips directly under the felt of the pieces. This might be the easiest way to use wooden chess pieces that were already weighted.
https://www.chess.com/blog/Sawbonez/finishing-my-upgrade-to-the-millennium-chessgenius-exclusive
[EDIT] Certabo sells their own RFID chips that work with their brand of electronic boards in conjunction with software to do piece recognition, so users can stick them under their chosen pieces regardless of the weighing technique. Here is one owner using the chips to play with the latest WCC chess pieces:
Lastly, I am in agreement with the lights on the board or squares for all the reasons mentioned.
Certabo sells the RFID chips that work with their boards separately so that users can use them with their chosen pieces, but it is not not true piece recognition technology.
It's RFID - it's as true piece recognition as you can get. Each piece has its own unique code so the board and software know exactly what piece it is.
Certabo sells the RFID chips that work with their boards separately so that users can use them with their chosen pieces, but it is not not true piece recognition technology.
It's RFID - it's as true piece recognition as you can get. Each piece has its own unique code so the board and software know exactly what piece it is.
I just remembered bringing this up with Certabo owners back in 2019.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/certabo-electronic-chess-board?page=3
^^You bought it up a few years ago in that thread and I (as a long time owner) answered your question by stating that it had peice recognition and you thanked me. I can place any piece on any square and the Certabo will recognise it. I find it odd that you are now saying that it isn't.
^^You bought it up a few years ago in that thread and I (as a long time owner) answered your question by stating that it had peice recognition and you thanked me. I can place any piece on any square and the Certabo will recognise it. I find it odd that you are now saying that it isn't.
I forgot about it so I figured to reference it.
Hi all - I just found out about the Supreme Tournament 55 Millennium Electronic Chess set and was wondering what you all think about it.
I like the fact that you don't have push down on the board to make a move which is similar to the DGT Centaur - my current favorite chess computer. However, unlike the Centaur, it is all wood and looks really nice. Unfortunately it is also very expensive and I don't like that you have to buy extra modules to be able to use all of its functionality on top of the high original cost. But is also appears that you can hook it up to Lichess and play games against live opponents which the Centaur cannot do. I wonder how stable it will be to play others online...
Thoughts?