The Sweeping Perversion of Dull Designs in Chess Sets Worldwide

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ILLYRIA

I started searching for excellent chess sets, historical as well as currently mass produced.  And the lack of variety was the first depressing result, but even beyond that it became painful when I discovered NO kind of good looking human-like chess pieces except for a couple embarassingly uncool ones. 

The truth was shocking, shaming, and stupifying.

Because my grandfather's set was amazing compared to the stuff that's out there today, and it didn't take super-duper craftsmanship or anything: the faces are just hints of lines and not in-depth sculpting of entire bodies.  No "master craftsmen" needed, I daresay.  The knight for example is like a big mohawk helmet wearing guy that simultaneously looks like the mane of a horse head but has a human face.  The rooks wear tower-top hats and the bishops wear those miters. 

That set looks great compared to the bland nothings available today, and it wouldn't be all THAT much more effort from the manufacturer!   So, growing up with this set, I assumed that all kinds of creativity like this was available.  Apparently not.   I wish now that I'd tracked down the "Cavalier" set that used to be available from the same company, because it was even better looking, with actual horses and riders for the knights, and the horse rearing up as if to jump over someone.   (Not even goofy looking at all!  Real classy, you know?)

You just don't see anything like that now.  There's two major categories:  the competition style sets we use and the historical "extra stick-like sets" from around the world when I guess the convention was to make the carvings super thin and tall and only different from each other in the most minor of ways, like a thickness near the top to represent a rook, a curved snout like thing for a knight, etc., with the majority of each stick figure being identical.   SAD!!!!!!

Sad for such a creative game to be saddled with so profound a lack in creativity when it comes to its presentation.   How could things be better?

I only remember a few exceptions that actually wowed me, ever, like the american civil war set that had cannons as rooks, riders holding flags as knights, etc.  I've seen hisorical period sets with elephant rooks.  And then you had the Star Wars chess sets at discount retailers that looked lousy in terms of quality, but hey at least they were trying something.  But imagine the possibilities of a really well made wooden set of angels and demons, drawing on the myths of the orient and india and pacific islanders to make them look especially spooky and "authentic."   Or a set of undead clashing with woodland sprites and faerie folk.  

You know what I'm saying?  A caliber of chess set that would more truly reflect our love of the game than do these silly stick figures with no personality and no gravity to them that we're given as our only option.

 

 


ILLYRIA

Yeah your rating would probably slip a bit using a new set.

But the key to making it so you could still concentrate might be to use instantly recognizable conventions, like knights who look aggressive and bishops who look zen somehow and rooks who look heavier then either, queens who are majestic and kings regal or brooding. 

Maybe the appeal wouldn't be so limited if you used mass appeal subject matter.  Star Wars, etc.   One company could specialize in making the molds for each new offering, so they'd have the process figured out and wouldn't waste lots of money in the R&D stage each time.


jdthompson

Is this the sort of thing you are looking for?


ILLYRIA

Thanks.  Nice company.  Some of those sets go a good ways toward what I'm talking about.   The ranch set with sherriffs and saloon girls.  Ha.   The sea creatures one is nice.   I liked this too:

http://www.chessbaron.biz/chess-ST2020.htm

Reynard the Fox set.

Now if they'd just do one with werewolves and vampires and lawyers.


Maradonna

I've never been a fan of themed chess sets, they always look rubbish to me. I think it's the fact that they try to be classy, but actually turn out to be just terrible. Infact, I'd go as far as to say that themed chess sets depress me, especially Lord of the Rings ones :)

Although, there is always light! Sometimes cool sets do appear, the user Sisko, put up some photos a while ago and there is a cool chess set amoungst them. It even has a face - which you desire :)


DimKnight

I'm going to be a contrarian in this thread and suggest that the "theme" chess sets are the real perversion.

I love chess--both the abstract notion of chess and the practice thereof. I am also at the age where (fortunately) I have some disposable income. I have therefore purchased several nice chess sets. My "display" model is a fairly expensive ebony affair from the House of Staunton, and the set in my travel bag is a heavily weighted plastic set. Both of these are in the Staunton pattern.

I'm not sure I would ever buy a "theme" chess set, since these are focused entirely on a narrow aspect of the game: the aesthetic beauty of the equipment. Unless you're playing with your own set, they can distract you from the actual gameplay. If you go to a tournament with one, you'll probably be asked to set it aside in favor of a Staunton pattern set. Sure, it's cool when you use your Alexander the Great set to capture your opponent's Stateira with your Parmenio; but this is not entirely chess.

Some of my feeling on the matter is influenced, oddly, by Flickr. Occasionally I flip through there for "chess"-tagged pictures; often, what I find are "arty" shots done by poor photographers with one of those glass chess sets as a subject (you know, the ones with one set as clear glass and one as frosted...they're available from any corner store for $5.99). To my mind, a shot of two grizzled old geezers in a park, contesting the point with taped-up plastic pieces, is much more moving.


Evil_Homer

http://www.chesshouse.com/Sterling_Silver_Golf_Chess_Set_p/e092.htm


ILLYRIA

All I know is there's going to be a ridiculous chess set sitting on my living room coffee table for people to see when they walk in.   Ridiculous.  Like Donkey Kong or something.   And it's going to be sweet.


Lions

A Donkey Kong chess set, now that's a hilarious idea.  I guess DK would be the king.  Candy would be the queen, Chunky the rook, Diddy the knight... I wonder about bishop and pawn.

 


Maradonna

ILLYRIA wrote:

All I know is there's going to be a ridiculous chess set sitting on my living room coffee table for people to see when they walk in.   Ridiculous.  Like Donkey Kong or something.   And it's going to be sweet.


You've just won me over, that would be sweet :)


ILLYRIA

Alien Vs. Predator

Imps Vs. Fairies

Blonde Celebs Vs. Brunettes  (Dark haired pawns: 8 Elvis impersonators.)

phishcake5

"Players see chess as a series of force vectors working them selves out over time; the set is almost completely irrelevant, merely  a  sign of an agreed-upon position.  But collectors look at the material and aesthetic aspect of chess sets, the set itself is the object of attention." ---Dr. Tim Redman

This was from an interesting recent article in Chess Life about the Chess Collectors International convention which was held at the same time and place as this years U.S. Senior Open.  Although the article described some interesting sets such as "put-together" sets, it unfortunately did not give many links.  It did give a link to one site www.millypozziarte.it but I couldn't find any chess sets there.

Anyway, I know the artisans are out there producing beautiful sets (I've seen them) its just they aren't so easy to find.  Seems though that anyone doing it would have to do it for love not money.

yoshtodd

I think this is true for craftsmanship in general? Just seems like in this age, mass production is so rampant (I'm not entirely complaining... good to have things affordable) that quality craftsmanship is being shouldered out. Like the only original, quality stuff only sells for huge sums now to rich collectors. Disposable and cheap is the norm, but perhaps as our planets resources dwindle we will become collectively less wasteful, and durable, quality craftmanship will be highly sought again.

dwaxe

Nerds vs. Nerds chess set:

ILLYRIA

Nice.

Now for something really twisted:

there's a certain someone who has way too many salt and pepper shakers.... a sort of budding collection of shakers, you know.  So, along comes me, and when asked "Is there something wrong with collecting this many salt & pepper shakers?" I say "No, not at all, in fact I have a suggestion--why don't you get another set like this one, and three more teeny-tiny sets like the five you've already got!"    (Because then I could use them all as a chess set late at night after you're asleep!)

Salt Vs. Pepper

KingofQueens1324

For Christmas last year I surprisingly received a brand new 15" cherrywood chess set with nautical chessmen.  The chessmen were made out of some sort a plaster and were very well painted and carved.  But, I yearned for something better, something more traditional.  So after saving up some money and firing up my computer, I soon discovered a chess set that I will soon come to know and love.  I found the set at the Godly site of chesssets.com, and it is very nice.  It has a 21" walnut and camphor wood board with Kari and Sheesham chess pieces,  It also has two drawers for storage.  now some of you may call the so-so on this one, until I tell you it was only $102.00!  You have to check it out!  www.chesssets.com!  There was also another one with a six inch king and pure walnut board with storage cabinet, which I really wanted.  But I found that the pieces were only made of plain ole' wood.  

 

Some day I will mature and found out how inexpensive and ungrand it really is, but until then, I am happy.

 

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ILLYRIA

Medieval Times set looks great.  Sharp shiny color on bases, great faces on the royals, awesome pawns.   The blue and red Orient set that has 8 different pawns, each taken from types of persons you'd see in artwork, is the kind of thing I'm talkin bout.  And the Jurassic set is cute with the baby pawns hatching + nice dino heads.   Good site, ChessSets.  Using the cowboys and indians one would just be horrible though. 

ILLYRIA

http://www.novica.com/itemdetail/index.cfm?pid=17569

Balinese gods

whoa

JG27Pyth

To my mind, a shot of two grizzled old geezers in a park, contesting the point with taped-up plastic pieces, is much more moving.

 

Yes! That's the thing. Grimy plastic hollow pieces with at least one bishop from a different set and a quarter inch too short.  Old cellophane tape holds a stepped on King together, there's a green bic cigarette lighter in place of one of the white rooks, and some pennies where the queenside pawns should be! That's a chess set! One of the men has a old black dog with one cloudy eye. It sits under the table glumly licking out the inside of someone's discarded cardboard frenchfries container, the other old-timer squints at the board while carefully peeling an orange. Somehow he has been carefully peeling an orange for the entire game.  This is how real chess is played.

trigs
JG27Pyth wrote:

To my mind, a shot of two grizzled old geezers in a park, contesting the point with taped-up plastic pieces, is much more moving.

 

Yes! That's the thing. Grimy plastic hollow pieces with at least one bishop from a different set and a quarter inch too short.  Old cellophane tape holds a stepped on King together, there's a green bic cigarette lighter in place of one of the white rooks, and some pennies where the queenside pawns should be! That's a chess set! One of the men has a old black dog with one cloudy eye. It sits under the table glumly licking out the inside of someone's discarded cardboard frenchfries container, the other old-timer squints at the board while carefully peeling an orange. Somehow he has been carefully peeling an orange for the entire game.  This is how real chess is played.


 you forgot the part about how they both smell like booze and haven't showered for days at least. not to mention, the winner gets enough money to buy some more liquor. classic old man chess.