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nacional100

1) Are most of the chess coaching services offered on the site reliable? (personal experiencies are appreciated)

2) Has it ever happened to you, or have you heard of someone whose money was stolen because of a fraudulent coaching service via the web?

3) I am 1500 on chess.com, I'd like a good, reliable and cheapish coach. Any recommendations?

Thank you very much

thegreat_patzer

I am very lucky and happy with my coach.  mny recommendation is that your carefully check out any person that says he is a coach.  look for students, look for a long history of coaching.  make sure you get a real name.

I'm sure if  your not wary- you could find a fraudulent coach.  I don't know if chess.com has a list of recommended coaches- but another website does.

if you careful you should be able to find coaching in the 10-30$ USD/hour.

you are about 50 elo below me, so my recommendation is definitely strong/good enough to coach you.

Diakonia

Like i tell the parents of the kids i work with.  Finding the right chess coach is like trying on shoes.  They may look good, and you may want them, but they may not feel right.  

Finding a compatible chess coach is no different than anything else in life, its trial and error.

Ziryab

I offer an unrated training game (3 days per move) as a coaching service. We use the chat to discuss the game as it progresses. Through this discussion, I will recommend other training resources, usually specifically targeted to some aspect of our game or discussion.

I have been considering allowing a potential student to start one of these games for free, and then only bill around move 8 or so. If the student is not satisfied, we can end the game there. If the student finds the discussion useful, pay the bill and the game goes on.

Would this option alleviate some of your concerns regarding fraud? 

nacional100
Ziryab wrote:

I offer an unrated training game (3 days per move) as a coaching service. We use the chat to discuss the game as it progresses. Through this discussion, I will recommend other training resources, usually specifically targeted to some aspect of our game or discussion.

I have been considering allowing a potential student to start one of these games for free, and then only bill around move 8 or so. If the student is not satisfied, we can end the game there. If the student finds the discussion useful, pay the bill and the game goes on.

Would this option alleviate some of your concerns regarding fraud? 

I really appreciate it but I was looking for other type of coaching.

In any case, I am gathering information for the future. I am not planning to start one of these days.

Thanks a lot

MonkeyH
BettorOffSingle wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

I offer an unrated training game (3 days per move) as a coaching service. We use the chat to discuss the game as it progresses. Through this discussion, I will recommend other training resources, usually specifically targeted to some aspect of our game or discussion.

I have been considering allowing a potential student to start one of these games for free, and then only bill around move 8 or so. If the student is not satisfied, we can end the game there. If the student finds the discussion useful, pay the bill and the game goes on.

Would this option alleviate some of your concerns regarding fraud? 

Why should I listen to a human coach when Fritz can teach me literally everything?

Anyone not intelligent enough to learn directly from a chess computer will never make it in this era, so it's just a hobby to them.

Computers also don't charge by the hour.

Fritz doesn't teach you anything, you learn it by deciphering fritz yourself. Not only that, because engines still use opening books you are still using grandmaster preparation, that an engine says a certain opening is +0.5 isn't saying much.

How can you learn Fritz anyway if it's only bruteforcing and an opening book to remember. Isn't this what GM's do anyway?

I really doubt that bruteforcing a whole game of chess is the way to go to become GM.  Not only that, chess has a place for strategy. I always lol when I know that in certain closed positions fritz can give advantage to the side that can't do anything because pieces are tripped. So the bruteforce method has severe limits. Because sometimes you need to look furher then the horizon of moves fritz brute forces. 

Not only that, in an OTB game / match you don't have time to brute force every move to find the good candidate move. So you are back on your own again.  

If you think you are going to be a World champ why not play in Millionaire's Chess and win a million? Obviously you say you can beat everyone because of your "elite" skills. Prove it. So far your proof is lacking and you can talk the talk but can you walk the walk 

nacional100

Of course computers will never get close to the experience of learnign form a human.-

Fritz can tell you what to play in every position in the world, but can't prepare you to play the correct move during a game, based on strong foundations.

And for the record, Fritz costs 0$ if you know where to look

Diakonia
BettorOffSingle wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

I offer an unrated training game (3 days per move) as a coaching service. We use the chat to discuss the game as it progresses. Through this discussion, I will recommend other training resources, usually specifically targeted to some aspect of our game or discussion.

I have been considering allowing a potential student to start one of these games for free, and then only bill around move 8 or so. If the student is not satisfied, we can end the game there. If the student finds the discussion useful, pay the bill and the game goes on.

Would this option alleviate some of your concerns regarding fraud? 

Why should I listen to a human coach when Fritz can teach me literally everything?

Anyone not intelligent enough to learn directly from a chess computer will never make it in this era, so it's just a hobby to them.

Computers also don't charge by the hour.

Blindly following a chess engine is like being given the answers, but not understanding the question.

Ziryab
Diakonia wrote:

Blindly following a chess engine is like being given the answers, but not understanding the question.

Brilliant! I've added this quote to the favorite quotes thread.

Diakonia
Ziryab wrote:
Diakonia wrote:

Blindly following a chess engine is like being given the answers, but not understanding the question.

Brilliant! I've added this quote to the favorite quotes thread.

Thank You...I get off a good one every now and then.  The whole blindly following engine analysis reminds me of capa's quote about chess books.  Something along the line of instilling site.

thegreat_patzer

I'm sure we could go on about why we doubt you BOS.

but I have a simpler answer... if you really are learning to play like a engine- and if your training hard.

go and get a title.  enter one of those big name tourneys and beat the sandbagged guys that try so hard to win.

add to that a few more victories- your rating will skyrocket... and when you add a title to your name peole here will take you far more seriously.

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sorry to the OP for getting off topic, but I felt like I had to say this- since BOS was quick to dismiss my coaching experiences.  

stocksAndChess1

A good way to know if they will "steal" your money is by looking at their feedback section, although I should note that it would be very undesirable for a coach to scam one student, as that would mean that they lose EVERY future student...
 

blackpug

Hi nacional100, I'd recommend Dejan Stojanovski, he's an excellent coach who's really helped me improve. Lessons are through skype and chess.com and he charges reasonable rates. You can check out his coaching page (http://www.chess.com/coach/dejan) and find lots of positive reviews.

Diakonia
nacional100 wrote:

1) Are most of the chess coaching services offered on the site reliable? (personal experiencies are appreciated)

2) Has it ever happened to you, or have you heard of someone whose money was stolen because of a fraudulent coaching service via the web?

3) I am 1500 on chess.com, I'd like a good, reliable and cheapish coach. Any recommendations?

Thank you very much

GM Bryan Smith is very good.  He is blessed with the ability to explain things so they make sense, and makes things understandable.  He does 100% human analysis which is what i like about it.

nacional100
Diakonia wrote:
nacional100 wrote:

1) Are most of the chess coaching services offered on the site reliable? (personal experiencies are appreciated)

2) Has it ever happened to you, or have you heard of someone whose money was stolen because of a fraudulent coaching service via the web?

3) I am 1500 on chess.com, I'd like a good, reliable and cheapish coach. Any recommendations?

Thank you very much

GM Bryan Smith is very good.  He is blessed with the ability to explain things so they make sense, and makes things understandable.  He does 100% human analysis which is what i like about it.

Right, but I guess he is expensive as well

Samvel_ChessMate

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maafernan

Hi!

I' m a chess coach and would be glad to work with you. See my blog: https://www.chess.com/blog/maafernan

If interested in lessons please send me a message and I will reply with details on my coaching proposal.

Good luck!