Pricing for chess coaches

1. Would people mind posting the coaches they have used here and their price. 

2. Anyone know of coaches around $10 or less?

UPDATE: I would highly suggest ArmaSecreta

 ArmaSecreta dm'd me after reading my post. 
-  He spoke to me on zoom for over an hour for free to ensure I should pay for a coach. Based on my needs he directed some books that I should get, got me set up with a website, and suggested I should at least attempt some puzzles before getting a coach. He is very qualified and I would highly suggest him.

Runner ups:  Abhi_Mary_1997, agindiana, PercivalFigaro mentioned in the forum that he can do 15/hr.

I don't know the prices, but they have a page you can shop around:

https://www.chess.com/coaches

I was looking over the page when I decided to post the question. 

I am intermediate chess player and I am new on chess.com

I am offering 1 hour for 5 $ for complete beginners to make them understand the game and practise chess with me daily

What kind of experience and qualities would you like your coach to have for 10 USD per class? 

@PathOfNerd I would like to defend other teachers as a teacher myself. Emotional intelligence, ability to explain concepts in an understandable way, experience in coaching, organized and structured teaching material, empathy, active listening are in my opinion some of the the most important qualities for a chess teacher.

If I was to hire a player to play for my team then I would not care about any of the qualities above, I would just take the guy with the highest rating and their playing strength would directly correlate with the price I would be willing to pay them.

However, most of the students are in the rating range of ~0-1600 and they have to learn many basic concepts, let it be Legal's mate like you said, or "good knight vs bad bishop" or "mobile center" etc. The question is then why would a player with the rating of say 2700+ explain these fundamental concepts better than a player with a rating of 2300 if they both understand these concepts on the same/similar level. For the simplicity of the argument, understand that you know basic concept of checkmating with a queen no worse than world champion. Yes, if you are 2300 and now you want to get better at technique in the endgame, learn openings till move 30, strong grandmasters are the only ones to go to as they are the only ones that have mastered those "very advanced techniques".

Imagine a player with the rating of 1000 who wants to get coaching to get to 1600. Perhaps it would be fair to say that a coach who can get him to 1600 in the least amount of time or classes is worth the highest salary as he is the most efficient. Assumption that the higher the player's rating the faster he would be able to achieve this objective is flawed based on what we hear and see everyday in chess clubs. Why would we think that necessarily a coach with the rating of 2800 do it faster than a coach with a rating of 2100. Everything changes if a player wants to make a transition from a rating of 2200 to 2500, then the 2100 rated coach perhaps is not qualified enough to explain the concepts that are required to make that transition. I believe that a coach with the qualities mentioned at the start of the post has the highest chance of doing it most effectively if the concepts that are required to learn to get better at the specific rating range of the student are internalized by the teacher.

The funny thingbis that Kestony just proved what makes a good coach a good coach. I think that most teachers, also Bgabor etc. would never be able to write such a smart and reflected comment. I'm not loooking for a coach, but if i would, Kestony would be my first choice and i dont care about his strength or the money he takes, i care about his social intelligence and this is what i almost never saw by any coach expect by him. Much respect👍

Buy a book written by a grandmaster for $20, that gives you 200 hours of top coaching i.e. $0.10 per hour.

@PathofNerd lol my point was that Kestony comment showed that he got some good social intelligence, which is something Bgabor and many other coaches DON'T have in this way! I think that your statement that most coaches are overprized is right, but who cares? Theyre allowed to do it, and if someone wants to pay that much money its completly fine and his own decision.

#12

"most coaches are overprized" overpriced with reference to what?
With reference to math teachers, music teachers, sports coaches, plumbers, electricians?
Price comes from supply and demand.
A top GM demands $200/h. That is fair compared to other professions.
However, when that same top GM takes time to write a book,
then thousands of students can profit from his wisdom and at lower cost.

Even though I never had a chess coach, I thought what a chess coach does is analyze YOUR games and fix YOUR weaknesses.. A book just explains mere concepts.

For example when I was at the last year of highschool I was struggling with some math concepts and I went to a private teacher for 30 euros/hour. Now, with what I spent that year I could have bought countless books on the exact same topics, explaining the exact same concepts I was struggling with, but I don't think they would have helped me at all. Simply because the private teacher is working and helping to fix the concepts you are struggling with ( and just YOU) , while a book would have explained the whole concepts in general.

So imo chess books and chess coaches are simply different things that shouldn't even be compared.

Cheers. 

#14
Of course, if you are a millionnaire, then hire a super grandmaster as your coach @ $200/h.
If your budget is less, then buy a book by the super grandmaster for $20.

A book costs $20 and gives you 200 h of coaching at $0.10/h
200 videos of 1 h at $10 each cost you $2000.
200 h of coaching at $50 per hour cost you $10000.
The essence is not the book/video/coach, but rather the 200 h of time and effort you put into it.

To come back on pricing:
Super GM 2600: $200/h
GM 2500: $100/h
IM 2400: $50/h
FM 2300: $25/h
CM 2200: $10/h
Of course it also depends on other factors. A Russian GM who only speaks Russian will ask less. A very well-known coach will ask more.

How strong should a coach be? Transfer of knowledge goes by osmosis. The learning rate is proportional to the rating difference between the coach and the student. For a student rated 1000 it makes no big difference, but for a student rated 2000 the strength of the coach is more important.

But a book doesn't give you 200 hours of coaching, it gives you 200 hours of the content of the book (concepts and information of the subject as a whole). Is not coaching. 

A private teacher and books are not the same. Otherwise I could have just bought a 20 euros math book when I was in high school instead of hiring a private teacher. 

Different things, don't confuse them. 

#16
It depends on how much time and money you have available.
If you have 200 h and $20 available, then buy a book, not 2 h of coaching by a CM.
If you have 2 h and $400 available, then hire 2 h of super GM coaching.

Nah it depends.. In chess I would agree with your vision, but you have to understand that is our PERSONAL experience.. Some people would improve from a 20 dollars book, other people would get more help from a 2 hours lesson with a CM instead. I partially agree with you, but you can't generalize, that's my point. 

If I'm stuck at computer engineering would be best to buy a 40 euros book or 2 hours private lessons? I don't know.. It depends on many things (why I'm stuck, whats the subject, etc. etc.)

I am sorry, I would never go as low as creating new accounts to reply/like to my own comments. Anyone who knows me would find this ludicrous. 

In fact I disagree with what he said with regards to most coaches being overpriced and other coaches lacking social intelligence just like I disagree with you as I pointed out in my original message. I said everything I wanted in my original message. 

#17
"You may read many books but still struggle to genuinely comprehend and use information from them." True, but you may also hire the best and most expensive coaches and still struggle to genuinely comprehend and use information from them.
Coach: "Play the center!" Student plays the wings.
Coach: "Take time to think!" Student plays a hasty move.
Coach: "Check for blunders!" Student blunders.
Coach: "Do not trade bishops for knights!" Student plays BxN.

#20

"you can ask a coach"
++ But can the coach answer the truth? The most truthful response is usually "I do not know".

#23
On the contrary: the weaker coaches make it seem as if they know it all and strong grandmasters often truthfully say "I do not know".