When is it the good time to castle?

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bean_Fischer

I think you have ever heard "to castle as early as possible". But when is it good to castle?

24. f4? What is a good move for Black? Black To Move.

 

Shamandalie1234

24. Rxe3! 25. Qxe3? Bxd4

derrosenkavalier

nice tactic!!

Dale

Castling is often done for one of two reasons.

1.To place your rook on a better square.

2.To make your king safer.

Now just Castle if either 1. or 2. seems like a good idea.

Scottrf
NM-Dale wrote:

Castling is often done for one of two reasons.

1.To place your rook on a better square.

2.To make your king safer.

Now just Castle if either 1. or 2. seems like a good idea.

Master level knowledge.

bean_Fischer
derrosenkavalier wrote:

nice tactic!!

This is only part of it. You haven't see the finish stuff. It's even more exciting than this.

bean_Fischer

Part 2. Much more exciting.Black To move and finish it.



bean_Fischer
NM-Dale wrote:

Castling is often done for one of two reasons.

1.To place your rook on a better square.

2.To make your king safer.

Now just Castle if either 1. or 2. seems like a good idea.

thanks.

QueenTakesKnightOOPS

An interesting question is when is it advantageous to delay Castling?

I have been studying some of Yasser Seirawan's games & when he plays a closed opening he doesn't castle early, sometimes he doesn't castle at all!

Another thing to take into account is after an early exchange of Queens ther may be less pressure to Castle early, sometimes the tempo can be used to advantage elsewhere.

I read somewhere that after Queens & 1 pair of rooks are exchanged then Castling (depending on positions) may not always be necessary.

Just some food for thought when thinking about Castling

GMVillads

Castle when you don't have other good moves or when casting Its a good move

r_k_ting
QueenTakesKnightOOPS wrote:

I have been studying some of Yasser Seirawan's games & when he plays a closed opening he doesn't castle early, sometimes he doesn't castle at all!

He even says as much in his lectures. 

As someone who also plays the French, I have learnt through experience castling kingside too early is often a bad idea!

QueenTakesKnightOOPS
r_k_ting wrote:
QueenTakesKnightOOPS wrote:

I have been studying some of Yasser Seirawan's games & when he plays a closed opening he doesn't castle early, sometimes he doesn't castle at all!

He even says as much in his lectures. 

As someone who also plays the French, I have learnt through experience castling kingside too early is often a bad idea!

I totally agree, its hammered into us as beginners to Castle early & thats what we do, but there comes a time when you can make a judgement in openings like the French to delay castling to our own advantage. Yasser Seirawan points this out brilliantly in a couple of his lectures with his own games to illustrate the point.

OldChessDog

Castling can be a disaster if you castle right into the teeth of an attack. NM-Dale is exactly right. Don't just do it as soon as you can--make sure it accomplishes its proper purpose.

Steeeezie

If the center is OPEN and Queens are still on the board...CASTLE IMMEDIATELY. Especially if your opponent is already catled adding his rook to the pressure down the center. If the centert is closed you can usually wait or if the Queens have been exchanged.

bean_Fischer
stephenmichael7 wrote:

If the center is OPEN and Queens are still on the board...CASTLE IMMEDIATELY. Especially if your opponent is already catled adding his rook to the pressure down the center. If the centert is closed you can usually wait or if the Queens have been exchanged.

That's what I want to show in my game above. pls look at it. I didn't castle. Instead I attacked from a and h file. In that game, I succeeded. But that's because of blunders.

bean_Fischer

Back to the game from #7, it gets more exciting. You should finish this game.This all about tactics. You are ahead. Try to finish it.

bean_Fischer
Myspace1 wrote:

For you?  It's better to do it as soon as possible.  Even on move #4 if you can.

For me? I often castle late except in some openings.

bean_Fischer
Myspace1 wrote:

Yeah for you.  As a sub-beginner.

If you reach 1600+, you know you don't have to castle when it's not needed. Tactics and postitional are more important to learn than not to castle.

blueemu

We don't NEED no stinking CASTLING.

White castles and gets crushed. My King just saunters around in the center, facing White's Queen and both Rooks, and never even gets his hair mussed.

bean_Fischer
blueemu wrote:

We don't NEED no stinking CASTLING.

White castles and gets crushed. My King just saunters around in the center, facing White's Queen and both Rooks, and never even gets his hair mussed.

Good game. But super GM's don't play 1. e4 c5 anymore. It's left to us amateurs as souvenir.