You simply play 1.c4 2.g3 3.Bg2 4.Nc3. No pin in this move order.
1. c4 ... 2. Nc3 ...
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AtahanT wrote:
You simply play 1.c4 2.g3 3.Bg2 4.Nc3. No pin in this move order.
I can't see how any of that prevents 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Bb4....
Can you distinguish the black and white moves or show me how fianchettoing the kingside bishop prevents the pin?
pwrgmrguard wrote:
AtahanT wrote:
You simply play 1.c4 2.g3 3.Bg2 4.Nc3. No pin in this move order.
I can't see how any of that prevents 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Bb4....
Can you distinguish the black and white moves or show me how fianchettoing the kingside bishop prevents the pin?
He can't pin your knight if you do not play Nc3. So you control the d5 square (the point of the english) by using your c4 pawn and you bishop instead of the c4 pawn and your c3 knight. If he still insists playing Bb4 eventhough there is no knight there you can just play a3 and chase him away with tempo etc.
So as white you simply play c4, g3, Bg2, Nc3 in that order no matter what black plays. Well almost no matter what.
Well white doesn't have to play Nc3 then either but can play Nf3
Against 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Bb4, 3. Nd5 is a good move, attacking the bishop and centralizing the knight.
Against 1. c4 e6 2. Nc3 Bb4, 3. Nd5?? is not possible, but an interesting try is 3. g4!? immediately attacking the kingside. 3. g4 is playable here since e6 blocks black's light squared bishop, and black will have difficulty castling queenside.
True that. Best way of dealing with it might be:
I haven't been able to find a name for this line beyond as a variant of the English. Its really hard to look up on here, because I have to search it as c4-others, and i don't know of any GM's or IM's who use it often.
It also happens to be my absolutely favorite start for white, largely because of how much control of the d file it gives me. Bb4 can be an issue, but that doubled pawn on c3 supports d4,and the bf1 holds c4.
I realize that if it opens as 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Bb4 my king side becomes weak and undeveloped, the center control and push can often offset that. In response to 2. ... Bb4, I often go to 3. d4... or 3. Nf3 ...
My least favorite 3rd move is 3. e4... but that is still sometimes played.
If anyone can give me pointers on how to better react to 2. ... Bb4 or how to continue this opening would be appreciated, and any direction towards players or games that can help tech this opening would be great.
Jeff