1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Qe2 Nf6 6. Nd6# with slight advantage for white
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1.e4 vs caro-kann
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Apr 25, 2018
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#5
I forhold til at overraske din modstander, ved at komme med noget han/hun ikke har forberedt på, ville jeg sige at det her er et godt bud
This is interesting.
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Qe2 Nf6? 6. Nd6#
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Qe2 e6!
Apr 25, 2018
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old97 wrote:
This is interesting.
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Qe2 Nf6? 6. Nd6#
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Qe2 e6!
I think even if black sees this trick the position is still ok for white.
The idea is to castle and then play Ne5 with a nice space advantage. Black still has to solve the problem of developing his queen's bishop. Playing the c5 break is difficult because this would open the diagonal for the bishop on g2.
The Two Knights variation is theoretically solid anyway, but lots of fun for white if black isn't prepared and tries to play it like the Classical variation. I've gotten this line a few times.
Apr 25, 2018
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#9
Maxito12345 wrote:
are their any traps or lines white can use against the caro-kann, to bring its players out of their preperation? Or at least some fun and active way of trying to deal with it. thx in advance
Your tactics rating is 704. WHY are you asking about tricks, traps, and getting someone out of book?
Apr 25, 2018
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#10
verylate wrote:
The Caro-Kann is a solid opening, there is no single quick fix against it. There are a lot of interesting tries though. I used to play the 2Ns attack against it, similarly to smositional in post 3. I used to play this gambit line:
which is a lot of fun, but not so much if black plays 4...e6 and declines the pawn(s) for positional reasons. Typical, isn't it? You can have all these wonderful ideas, but the opponent can avoid them if he is careful.
Yeah, the caro-kann is really solid. My approach is just to get a comfortable position with a slight advantage with white and then outplay my opponent.
The Two Knights Variation is the best in my opinion.
I didn't even notice that Smositional had already posted the same line I just posted, though with 9 Bc4 instead of Qf3. Looks like that works too. Black is getting punished either way.
Apr 25, 2018
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#12
Yeah, this line is just bad for black. Qf3 is a good move, too. I just like Bc4 followed by Qe2 because of the knight sac on f7.
Apr 25, 2018
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#13
@JSLigon What do you play against this line? I'm having some problems with it.
Do you have any recommendation?
I learned it from ChessExplained's repertoire on chessable "Keep it Simple: 1 e4". He recommends 9 Qf3 but mentions Bc4 as another possibility. What's surprising is how often Caro-Kann players don't know what to do against the Two Knights and play right into this (players at my level obviously, not talking about higher levels). I've gotten 3 easy wins in this line so far. They seem to think it's just like the Classical variation until Qh5 is played and then they realize there's a problem.
Apr 25, 2018
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#15
Yeah I agree. I also got so many wins in this line.
Winning a pawn early in the game without getting behind in developement is always nice.
However I struggle against the main move Bg4 followed by Bh5 if h3 is played.
Smositional in the 3... Bg4 line black normally takes the knight after h3. 4. Bh5 is supposed to be good for white but it's not a trap line where black is completely lost either. The aforementioned chessable repertoire gives:
Apr 25, 2018
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#17
It's an complicated line though. The Bxf3 line is a little easier to grasp.
But maybe this is the only way to get an advantage.
Smositional wrote:
... I think even if black sees this trick the position is still ok for white.
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Qe2 e6 ...
If I remember correctly, I saw 5...Ndf6 suggested somewhere.
Apr 25, 2018
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JSLigon wrote:
I learned it from ChessExplained's repertoire on chessable "Keep it Simple: 1 e4". He recommends 9 Qf3 but mentions Bc4 as another possibility. What's surprising is how often Caro-Kann players don't know what to do against the Two Knights and play right into this (players at my level obviously, not talking about higher levels). I've gotten 3 easy wins in this line so far. They seem to think it's just like the Classical variation until Qh5 is played and then they realize there's a problem.
Love that site!
It has actually made studying openings bearable.
Apr 25, 2018
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#20
kindaspongey wrote:
Smositional wrote:
... I think even if black sees this trick the position is still ok for white.
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Qe2 e6 ...
If I remember correctly, I saw 5...Ndf6 suggested somewhere.
That's another possibility. However I quite like white's position.
It's not much but its something you can work with.
are their any traps or lines white can use against the caro-kann, to bring its players out of their preperation? Or at least some fun and active way of trying to deal with it. thx in advance