1.e4 or 1.d4

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stonesikich

Hey I want to see How many people like 1.d4 or 1.e4 best ,so I am going to tally. Also tell me why you like this better than that. also tell me the advantages and disadvantages between them. So which will win I guess were going to find out.   

kosmeg

Never-ending thread

stonesikich
kosmeg wrote:

Never-ending thread


 what does that mean

Nytik
stonesikich wrote:
kosmeg wrote:

Never-ending thread


 what does that mean


It means that this topic gets created every two or three days, and the same points go round over and over again, and it gets rather tiresome.

kosmeg
Nytik wrote:
stonesikich wrote:
kosmeg wrote:

Never-ending thread


 what does that mean


It means that this topic gets created every two or three days, and the same points go round over and over again, and it gets rather tiresome.


The word that fits here is "exactly"

MrNimzoIndian

Well this chess site offers the opportunity to play both 1e4 and 1d4 !

I can't help think that the best chess education will involve exposure to both at some point.

On another point perhaps one super match could take place. 1e4 players against 1d4 players. 2 Simultaneous games where if you play 1e4 you have to face 1d4 in the other game etc Perhaps a 100 per side or even a 1000 ? There would have to be some way of making sure there was comparable individual matches based on ratings...Would be an interesting experiment.

Could this be organised ?

Alphastar18

1. e4 wins by a slight margin.

End of thread.

mprhchess
richie_and_oprah wrote:
Alphastar18 wrote:

1. e4 wins by a slight margin.

End of thread.


Except that 1.d4 is better because the pawn is not hanging.

 

Took me 30 years to accept this simple fact.


 I agree.

I have only been playing chess for 5.

MapleDanish

This is talked about all the time.  It's one move... lots of good ways to win a chess game. 

 

For those interested I've left 1. d4 and gone back to my first true love :).

ericmittens

1.c4

Anything else is uncivilized

MapleDanish
ericmittens wrote:

1.c4

Anything else is uncivilized


Well that's not quite fair ... wasn't one of the options :P... Besides, c4 isn't really taking full advantage of having the first move.

EuropeanSon

Statistically the best opening is actually 1.Na3  Cool

ericmittens
ih8sens wrote:
ericmittens wrote:

1.c4

Anything else is uncivilized


Well that's not quite fair ... wasn't one of the options :P... Besides, c4 isn't really taking full advantage of having the first move.


You're not taking advantage of the first move. Tongue out

ericmittens

Actually its the best move.

Tell no one.

mprhchess
wiseguy00 wrote:

Statistically the best opening is actually 1.Na3  


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benedictus

I think their popularity comes from the direct attack on the center that is involved in most lines following these openings.

I personally prefer 1. d4. Not neccessarily because it's positionally better (even though I think it is), but mainly because there's less variations. 1. e4 can lead to hundreds of variations. I quit using 1. e4 after noticing how all my openings were different due to different defenses. I do not want to learn so many variations. This is why I switched to 1. d4 followed by 2. c4. Main defenses to this are Orthodox Defense, Slav, KID, Nimzo, and Dutch. There are others, but not many and they're rarely played.

TheOldReb

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/explorer?pid=20719&side=white

Take a look at this and note Karpov's dominance with 1 c4 . 

Krish30

1. g4 the grob rules

MrNimzoIndian
Krish30 wrote:

1. g4 the grob rules


I'm organising a "Macho Grob" tourney if anyone is interested.....1e4 g5)

philtheforce

E4 is alright if you know what you are doing! However, i open with d4 ... but if you open with d4 it tends to be a very tactical game. Aggresive players tend to play e4, however d4 can lead to aggressive lines if you know what you are doing.

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