All gambit Repertoire?

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farbror

What would you suggest as an all gambit repertoire using 1. e4 as white?

 

Extra credits for an all gambit repertoire as black!

hanngo

For white...

against c5:the wing gambit,i think its better than the smith morra

against e5:kinds gambit

against c6:Panov-Botvinik attack,not a gambit but played like one

against d6:no good gambi9ts for this,probally the Austian attack

against d5:Play the   1.e4   d5

                                  2.exd5    Qxd5

                                   3.Nc3     Qa5

                                    4.b4 variation

hanngo

For black:against d4:

Queens gambit:albin countergambit

Against e4:probally the icelantic(spelling?) gambit

f4:froms gambit,and if they transpose into a kings gambit,play the falkbeer countergambit

farbror

Thank you! Interesting! I have heard the Wing gambit being prefered over Morra but I somehow think that the Morra and the Danish might fit well together?

farbror

Thank you! You just saved me a few grey hairs.

TheOldReb

A  gambit I sometimes use against sub 2000 players in the caro kann is : 1e4 c6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 dxe4 4 Bc4 and this often becomes a BDG  gambit and against the scandinavian I have also opted for 2 d4  and offer the BDG , again , only against weaker players.....

ericmittens

Hmmm...fun!

vs. 1...e5 = King's Gambit

vs. 1...e6 = Milner-Barry Gambit

vs. 1...c6 = Fantasy Variation

vs. 1...c5 = Morra Gambit

farbror

I have tried the Fantasy variation a little but I do not get the gambit adrenaline running playing it.

Shivsky

Agree with GambitKing, Gambits force you to fight really hard to compensate for the pawn. Really helps practice working with initiative. Plus, at quicker tourneys (G/30), these can really help get your opponent to burn his clock.

Survived 5-6 years of OTB chess climbiing to USCF 1600 with an all gambit repertoire myself. 

Here's what worked for me (at that level, I have to add):

White: 1. e4

1... d5 : 2.d4,  transposing to the Blackmar Gambit

1 ... Nf6 : 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4!? transposing to the Blackmar Gambit

1... e5 : 2.d4 Danish/Goring systems

1... c5 : 2.c3 : Smith-Morra

1... c6 : 2.d4 d5 3.Be3?! often followed by 3...de 4.f3  (Diemer-Duhn? not sure)

1... e6 : Similarly, 2.d4 d5 3.Be3?! often followed by 3...de 4.f3  (Alapin Diemer gambit?)

1...d6 : The "Mad dog" system.  Not really a Gambit, but matches it in terms of risk-taking.  1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bc4 Bg7 5.Qe2 Nc6 with 6.e5!?

Might as well throw in a disclaimer: Of course, this is fun at the sub-1600 OTB chess league, but one really needs to clean up their repertoire a bit to consistently pose problems for Class A players and above.   Cheap tricks work less often when playing these bigger bullies.


jarkov

vs sicilian I like SM way better than the wing. everyone calls SM "cheap tricks" but then what does that make the wing, cheap crap? Ive played both sides of the coin from both colors and I cant see any lines for white to get anything fun going.

in terms of an "all gambit repertiore" I think that its kind of a bad idea. I mean to gambit every game is too much, some positions just arnt called for it and you throw points away over time. better is just to play sharp and then sac a pawn in the middlegame for next to nothing. been looking at a lot of young kaspy games where he goes this and gets away with it.

a good example of not gambiting would be the 1.e4 d5.. sure, you could play the b4 gambit in that, but why give them anything to play for?

ElectricEel

Well, my list would go like (after 1.e4):

Against e5 - Scotch gambit:1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Bc4

Against the Sicilian - Sicilian Gambit: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Be2 Bb4 7.O-O or Poisoned Pawn: 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qb6

Against the French - Poisoned Pawn: 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Ne7 7. Qg4 Qc7 8. Qxg7 Rg8 9. Qxh7 cxd4 10. Ne2 Nbc6

One of the main aims of the Karo-Kann is to avoid gambits popular at the time of its creation - that it does; the Panov-Botvinnik is still a good attacking opening.

Hardly a repertoire, I know, but most of the above should be fairly sound.

Gambitknight

For white:

since we're looking at an all-gambit repetoire: first move E4.

Against E5: King's Gambit.  I'm not sure any other gambit comes close in terms of popular appeal, historical legacy (just look at the Romantic era), or fiendish complexity.

Against the Sicilian: Smith Morra Gambit

Against the French Defence: Alekhine Chartard Attack

Against the Caro Kann: Panov Botvinnik attack.  It's not a gambit, but it does create a very dangerous attacking chances.

With black: against E4, I'm going to give a shout out to Gambitking's beloved Latvian Gambit.  Though I personally am not a fan, if you're going to go all out, you might as well do so with style...

Against D4: Benko Gambit.  Interestingly, it should be noted, that this is much more of a positional based system than any of the other options listed, so it might not be to a tactician's tastes.

Against flank and irregular openings... to the best of my knowledge, no reputable gambits exist.

DrizztD

For all of you who are currently saying that one should play the wing gambit against the sicilian, NO, JUST NO! I think the Smith-Morra is much stronger. It's very pressuring to black, and wing gambit just gives black a easy game.

jarkov
DrizztD wrote:

For all of you who are currently saying that one should play the wing gambit against the sicilian, NO, JUST NO! I think the Smith-Morra is much stronger. It's very pressuring to black, and wing gambit just gives black a easy game.


for sure. in the SM you actually get the center, and some naturally places pieces. in the wing black counters the center and try to play out of a messy hole most of the time

bjazz
Gonnosuke wrote:

The Wing Gambit and the Smith-need-Morra-for-the-pawn have their place but sometimes they're just not enough to satisfy your inner berzerker.  When you're in the mood for a little caveman shock n' awe give this one a go:

1.e4 c5 2.f4 d5 3.Nf3 dxe4 4.Ng5 Nf6 5.Bc4 Bg4 6.Qxg4!! Nxg4 7.Bxf7+ Kd7 8.Be6+ Kc6 9.Bxg4

 


 I really like the look of that.

rigamagician

How about an ultra-solid all gambit repertoire?  For white:

Sicilian Modern Alapin 1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nf3

Ruy Lopez Lowenthal 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.d4

French Winawer Maroczy/Alekhine 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nge2

Caro-Kann Khavin 1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Nf3 Bg4 4.h3 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 e6 6.d4 Nf6 7.Bd3

For black:

Ruy Lopez Marshall 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 0-0 8.c3 d5

Benko 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5

English Bellon 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 e4

Bird From 1.f4 e5

TheOldReb
rigamagician wrote:

How about an ultra-solid all gambit repertoire?  For white:

Sicilian Modern Alapin 1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nf3

Ruy Lopez Lowenthal 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.d4

French Winawer Maroczy/Alekhine 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nge2

Caro-Kann Khavin 1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Nf3 Bg4 4.h3 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 e6 6.d4 Nf6 7.Bd3

For black:

Ruy Lopez Marshall 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 0-0 8.c3 d5

Benko 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.d5 b5

English Bellon 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 e4

Bird From 1.f4 e5


 This is the center attack in the Ruy and I have played it for years. 5 d4 can also be played before castling to avoing the Open defense of the Ruy. I have never seen Lowenthal's name connected to this line in my sources... ??

rigamagician
Reb wrote:

 This is the center attack in the Ruy and I have played it for years. 5 d4 can also be played before castling to avoing the Open defense of the Ruy. I have never seen Lowenthal's name connected to this line in my sources... ??


GM Alexander Bangiev calls it the Lowenthal variation on his Gambit Lexicon CD, but the CD is mostly in German, so that may just be a local usage.  Like you and chess.com's Game Explorer, Hooper and Whyld call it simply the "Centre Attack."

rigamagician
Gambitking wrote:

You won't find many GMs playing the Smith-Morra, but Bronstein and Marshall were both known for using the Wing Gambit.


Former world top 10 Michael Adams used to play the Smith Morra, as have Jan Votava, Murray Chandler, Nigel Short and Milan Matulovic.  Probably more GMs play the Smith Morra than play the Wing Gambit.

stefanchess

in the danish gambit you give 2 pawns for the bishops on strong diagonals AND pointing towards the Kside Black has to give back 1 pawn. so i recommend the danish gambit for all e4 gambit players