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timeless_thoughts

What should black do when white does this

 

Skeptikill

i dont play it but i suspect both NxP and QxP are good. From looking at it i do prefer NxP for the reasons you have highlighted. Is this a standard alapin-counter line? (Just for my curiosity) Ive only ever seen the first few moves, 4 id say

Tricklev

I where thinking the same thing Skeptikill, so I looked it up in MCO, and it recommends 4...Nf6, which would loose the knight it seems, except that in no of the 3 following lines suggested does black take the knight.

 

A typo I assume.

Tricklev

On a slightly unrelated topic tohugh, the book recommends 5... Be6 instead of a6, if that matters to you.

awesmond

This looks surprisingly like the Budapest... er, not really, but it seems that a rook lift along the a-file might be played, which doesnt happen often, but it does in the Budapest. Not to mention, there isnt a knight on f3 either. I'm just thinking aloud so ya...

timeless_thoughts

Thanks guys can anybody post what they were talking about, it's kinda hard to follow in your head

Shiraaaaazi

e3 by white falls prey to the Larsen Trap. Bad news for white.

timeless_thoughts
traxlerman wrote:

e3 by white falls prey to the Larsen Trap. Bad news for white.


 Can you post a diagram on what your talking about please

JuicyJ72

I like Qxd4 followed by Bc5 to develop more pieces while attacking the center.

JG27Pyth
traxlerman wrote:

e3 by white falls prey to the Larsen Trap. Bad news for white.


I'm pretty sure you mean the Lasker trap... It's so awesome I have to post it (again)...

 

timeless_thoughts

I know that trap but, I was talking about when white does this

 

marvellosity
JG27Pyth wrote:

I'm pretty sure you mean the Lasker trap... It's so awesome I have to post it (again)...

 


Aye, there's a Tactics Trainer problem that starts with 6.Bxb4, I commented on it recently.

Skeptikill
awesmond wrote:

This looks surprisingly like the Budapest... er, not really, but it seems that a rook lift along the a-file might be played, which doesnt happen often, but it does in the Budapest. Not to mention, there isnt a knight on f3 either. I'm just thinking aloud so ya...


ive never seen a h-file rook lift in the budapest! and ive played it enough times i think.

 

In the lasker trap is that the best continuation for all the moves? Cos some of them dont seem like the ones i would play....

JG27Pyth
Skeptikill wrote:
awesmond wrote:

This looks surprisingly like the Budapest... er, not really, but it seems that a rook lift along the a-file might be played, which doesnt happen often, but it does in the Budapest. Not to mention, there isnt a knight on f3 either. I'm just thinking aloud so ya...


ive never seen a h-file rook lift in the budapest! and ive played it enough times i think.

 

In the lasker trap is that the best continuation for all the moves? Cos some of them dont seem like the ones i would play....


Black is playing his best moves in the line I gave... White has some other moves, all futile. Early in the trap White had the fxe3 escape hatch (I mention this in the annotations) after which White's pawns are ugly but the game isn't over.