beginner question on 1. e4 e5 2.Qh5

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madroan

So I see this opening a lot here and I was hoping to get some help with it.

 

1. e4 e5

2. Qh5

What are some good responses for black?  

mike100000

I'd go with Nc6 (protecting e5) followed by g6 to kick the queen, while clearing a nice square for the bishop, but after Nc6 the possibilities are endless, just develop normally, particularly if you can also kick his queen about while you do.

Flier

just develloping moves, control the center, look out for easy threats

all these options are good
RoffleMyWafflez

2..Nc6   3..Nf6

Daelvis

well personally I like doing the French Defense (e5 then d6). This allows you to protect your pawn and allows you to open up the king side.

zxcv1

david1995
RainbowRising wrote:

The French Defence is e6 d5


No! The French defence is e4 e6!

e4 e5 is called the scandinavian!

rooperi
InternationalChess wrote:
RainbowRising wrote:

The French Defence is e6 d5


No! The French defence is e4 e6!

e4 e5 is called the scandinavian!


This is all very informative

Hypocrism

I am so, so sorry for the ignorance in this thread :(

 

For clarification:

 

1.e4 e5 is the double King's pawn opening

1.e4 e6 is the French Defense

1.e4 d5 is the scandinavian

1.e4 e5 followed by 2...d6 is normally the Philidor Defense although with 2.Qh5, who knows what it's called!

DrawMaster

1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 is currently referred to as the Parham Attack.

See wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parham_Attack

DrSpudnik

Whatever it's called, it sucks something awful. It is either being played by someone who it truly bad, or someone who is trying to make you think he is bad.

ScottSchafer
DrSpudnik wrote:

Whatever it's called, it sucks something awful. It is either being played by someone who it truly bad, or someone who is trying to make you think he is bad.


If it Kasparov drew playing against this opening, it can't be that bad. And if your opponent blunders and doesn't protect e5, you've got a huge advantage. But generally, I think it's reserved for sizing up your opponent or playing against a low rated one.

thesexyknight

I haven't played that opening as white since I was a wee lad. It just doesn't work that well unless your opponent is not well learned

Niven42

This is sometimes called the Sosis as well.  I saw this a bunch when I was a kid.  Good replies are Nc6, Qe7, or d6.  Watch out for Bc4 then Qxf7#.  Tongue out

Azukikuru

If you see this opening a lot, you're in luck - it's a great way to improve your rating when someone plays this against you. Wink

It usually means that someone is trying a Scholar's Mate on you, because it's the only way they know how to win. To exploit this, you can just play as zxcv1 suggested and get a lead in development. And once you have that, attacking opportunities will follow.

rigamagician

Very rare at the GM level, but Hikaru Nakamura played it a few times in 2005.

jim995
DrawMaster wrote:

1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 is currently referred to as the Parham Attack.

See wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parham_Attack


 Isn't it also called the wayward queen attack?

david1995
jim995 wrote:
DrawMaster wrote:

1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 is currently referred to as the Parham Attack.

See wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parham_Attack


 Isn't it also called the wayward queen attack?


Yes. It is a different name for it

Azukikuru
jim995 wrote:

 it also called the wayward queen attack?


As the great Shakespeare himself said: "2.Qh5, by any other name, would still suck."

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236 games found in the ChessBase Online Database with 4.5 million games. 

2005 Nakamura 2657 - Sasikiran 2642 0-1

2005 Nakamura 2657 - Mitkov 2530 1/2-1/2

2005 Nakamura 2657 - Filippov 2466 1-0

2005 Nakamura 2657 - Filippov 2466 1/2-1/2

2005 Nakamura 2657 - Filippov 2466 0-1

Nakamura only has one win opening with C20 KP: Patzer Opening - and this was only because Filippov blundered on move 34...Rxb5?? with mate to follow. In Game Explorer, White enjoys an 80 percent chance of losing after 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Nc6 3.Bc4 g3 4.Qf3. Laughing

Nakamura's one win using the Patzer Opening with a lot of help from Filippov.



If you play the French Defense, perhaps consider it a gift if White plays 2.Qh5. I only found six games in the ChessBase Online Database after 1.e4 e6 2.Qh5, with only one titled player, and he lost. Surprisingly, I still see 2.Qh5 or Qf3 after 1...e6. Here's a line to consider when faced with 2.Qh5. It drives the live chess players nuts. Smile


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