Benoni Defense: Worth it?

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Master_Kann

Is the Benoni an opening worthy of consideration from the Black side (pure move order)?  Everyone seems to fear the Taimanov Attack... is it really that bad?



bronsteinitz

I suggest you have a look at the snake variation. 5. cxd5 , Bd6. Very interesting for black....

Master_Kann

The snake benoni is indeed interesting, but I was wondering moreso about the fianchetto by Black.

TasmanianTiger

I'm a bit biased towards the Benoni because I love the Dutch Stonewall... the Benoni is for attacking players. If you're an attackng player don't bother playing the Benoni, just play the Dutch Stonewall. Sorry for the biasedness.

TasmanianTiger

So. no. The Benoni is not worth it. If you insist on playing the Benoni, so be it. However, my recommendation is to play the Benko Gambit. It's a sharp line that stems from the Benoni.

Andre_Harding

I don't play the Benoni. I do know that the Taimanov is considered dangerous, but Black seems to get counterplay if he knows his stuff. Yes, Black is somewhat worse, but the game is certainly complex and a fighting battle.

If that's your kind of chess, I say learn the lines and go for it! Though if you are playing GMs I might think twice about it.

About the Stonewall Dutch: I must say I have almost never feared for my king's health facing that opening...

TasmanianTiger

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Master_Kann
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Master_Kann

@pfren

Do you know of the 8. ... Nbd7 line in the Taimanov Attack?  If so, what is your opinion of this controversial line?

gambitistdownfall

When I think of the Benoni "My son of sorrow" what comes to my mind is the pawn that advances two squares ( an envoy) underminding whatever white play on move 2. could this pawn be the son of sorrow? just wondering

jimmerstoopy

Best move to meet the 8.Bb5+. Is 8...Nfd7. If you block the check the B knight or with the bishop then white is going to gain tempo and space by dislodging the F knight with E5.

theliten

Benoni is really tricky to play against stronger opponents. I am playing some kind of benoni against Frenchtutor right now. You are free to see how it have progressed if you like.

jimmerstoopy

Tell me about it. I am playing a correspondence with a GM right now and I played the Benoni for the hell of it. Gonna have my heart handed to me on a platter after a few more moves I can just feel it.

TitanCG

Some play a Nimzo-Indian after 3.Nc3 and a Benoni after only after 3.Nf3 although that sounds like a lot of work.

jimmerstoopy

Can you explain that bit more? Not sure what you mean?

molokombo

he means playing the line pfren mentioned. 1. d4 nf6 2. c4 e6 3. nf3 c5 taking you into the benoni and thus avoiding the taimanov and other lines with an early f4 from white, while after 3. nc3 playing a nimzo indian with the move Bb4.

Lou-for-you

The flick-knife attack and other f4 variations like mikenas, are a pain imho for black. Real benoni players say they are not, but this is slightly biased. I only play snake benoni as a surprise weapon.

Foridejack

I use the old Benoni and I love it

sassygirltebritish

the is only one variation of the benoni thats good and thats the benko gambit as it doesnt lose by force of course the benoni is a great opening in blitz and in 10 minute chess but anything else such as thirty minutes bad opening

adityasaxena4

Inaccessible , weak and overly wild with white mostly being better . I don't think so .

1.c4 e6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 c5 4.d5 d6 5.Nc3 cxd5 6.cxd5 is how I would reach a Modern Benoni but :

(a) Not likely to happen

(b) White has space advantage on queenside and center which is hard to compensate for

(c) King is open

(d) Looks very dry from Black perspective