Best Defense Against Bird's Opening?

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markarkrkk

The birds opening is commonly replied with 1...d5

By playing the birds every so often as to mix my openings up, I often find that 1...g6 is the hardest, and most frustrating to play against. Although it does end up transposing into the main line on most occasions.

The common nature is for white to set up kingside attacks and threatening blacks king via minority attacks and the occasional sacrifice. However white is not limited to playing on the kingside and can also form queenside attacking options. I would recommend that you look at schofio's blog - http://blog.chess.com/schofio/bird-orangutang-takes-down-world-champion

Playing black I would recommend either playing the 1...g6 reply, or if you do stick with the main line of 1...d5 then after 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. e3 start to take the centre board with c5 at some point.

pvmike

I like from's gambit here's one of my games with it

alec94x
chess337 wrote:

My brother and chief chess nemisis (strani) routinely plays birds opening, it's off beat  enough to through off my normal defense. Just looking for some suggestions and creative ways to defend against it, thanks!!

 


I play the Birds opening occasionally I answer it as black with the froms gambit you can get some nice scoring chances against white on the Kingside with it if you know where to press white's buttons!

kungfoodchef

when i play the birds and some one offers me the froms gambit i transpose into the kings gambit

JamesMazur2

In my opinion, there is no need to bother with From's Gambit.  First of all, as was said before, White can easily get out of it with 2. e4, and if the gambit is accepted, Black loses a center pawn.  On the other, 1...Nf6 is solid without either of the two drawback's of From's gambit.

Conquistador

1.f4 e5!? 2.e4 d5!? is the Falkbeer Countergambit.

eaglex
e5 for the froms gambit for agressive players or d5 if you want something safer
djackson3789

Birdbrains (like myself) will be expecting 1 ...d5 and 1 ...e5. If someone were to play the Bird against me, I would play 1 ..d6 and aim for a Pirc-like setup.

Tnk64ChessCourse

From's gambit is quite possibly the "trappiest" opening in chess.

Absurd

Every Expert-FM level player that I've used Bird's Opening against has played 1... c5 and the game transposed into a Closed Sicilian, though early g6 openings are also frustrating to play against.

Jamalov

there is probably a good reason why the grandmasters don't play the 3...Nd4. Take a look at this: 

https://www.academia.edu/6217844/A_METHOD_FOR_COMPARING_CHESS_OPENINGS

Just4Relxation

All of you who hope to play From's Gambit won't get your chance because White will transpose into the King's Gambit.  What that means is you have to know two defenses for one opening.  It's a waste of time.  Pick one line that is solid and easy to understand.

ZlyphrrPlayz

Form Gambit is solid!

 

Just4Relxation

This position is equal.  Black doesn't have any advantage.  Unless you want to provide more moves to prove your point.  Right now, it's just equal.

kindaspongey

Is it really accurate to say, "ONE defense for TWO"? After all, White is not compelled to react to 1 f4 e5 with 2 e4. I do agree that the From objection need not concern a 1 e4 e5 player who is already prepared for the position after 1 e4 e5 2 f4.

SmurfOnSteroids

It's seems most chess.com players have found the answer to the Bird's opening. They seem to defend it perfectly these days in 75% of their games as black at all rating levels for the first 8-12 moves. It's as if they play against f4 every game as black! They all got so much experience against f4 it's crazy! Just look at all my games as white (I open 1 f4 every game), no matter which bracket you look at from 1350 to 1750 they all defend against me perfectly.

What's their secret? They're using computerized opening books against me!

If I take them out of the book? No worries, they'll let their engine do the raw calculations for a few more moves anyway. Like, seriously, how dare I open 1 f4 against them? I deserve to be stomped out by a computer for insulting them with such a heretical opening! How dare I not play e4/d4 totally unfair! Only a computer can balance the lack of preparation, that's fair right!?! I deserve to be mauled by their engine!

Just4Relxation

This old debut is occasionally employed by Larsen, but that is about all that can be said in its favor.  Black has a wide choice of plans.  1. f4  d5  2. Nf3 (The only consistent move, increasing White's grip on the e5 square.  Against other moves Black as a very free hand in the center).  2...Nf6  3.  e3     Bg4!  4. Be2    Bxf3    5.  Bxf3  Nbd7  6.  d4 (White must prevent ...e5 at all costs.  An amusing example of the sort of thing that can happen to him if he forgets to to this, is the game Wyss-Barcza, Lugano Ol 1968.  6...e6  7.  0-0  8. c6 =

Just4Relxation

If you are referring to 1. e4 e5, 2. Nf3 f5 the Latvian (Greco-Counter) Gambit then I'll play the White side any day of the week, for any amount of money because it's a forced win for White.  This was shown by Raymond Keene and David Levy in their book An Opening Repertoire for the Attacking Player.  Besides, why waste your time with 1. e4?  Even Fisher himself had to admit to Hans Berliner that 1. d4 was a much better choice.  It's just that Fisher was stuck in his ways by then and it served him well.  And with 1. d4, you can play narrow and strong systems like the Colle and the London where Black can find himself in a mess.  

 Example:  1.d4  Nf6, 2. Nf3  d5, 3. e3  e6, 4.  Nbd2 c5, 5.  c3  Nc6, 6.  Bd3 Bd6, 7.  0-0 0-0, 8.  dxc5 Bxc5, 9. b4! Bd6, 10. Bb2 e5, 11.  e4  dxe4, 12. Nxe4 Nxe4, 13. Bxe4 f5, 14. Bd5+ Kh8 15. b5

This is the line that has virtually replaced Colle's 9. e4 and has given rise to all sorts of issues for Black.  Why play 1.e4 and have to learn a line against the Petroff's Defense, Phildor's Defense, Latvian (Greco-Counter) Gambit, Queen,s Pawn Counter Gambit, Sicilian Defense, French Defense, Caro-Kann Defense, Alekhine's Defense, Pirc/Modern Defence, and the Scandinavian Defense?

I started chess last year with playing only the Colle, the Scandinavian, and the Englund Gambit and I gained 135 rating points in one year alone.  Very little study, very many wins.  I was a 1495 player and beat a 2265 player and I had the Black pieces.  

iamtheboxer

You know... I have tried all of these... against the BOT Karim (850).

Plays like a GM? Ugh.... why did i start Chess so late in life sad.png

UnusualBirds

Bird's Opening is my favorite. Try it out at some of my thematic Daily Events  which most of them are Bird's Opening variations: https://www.chess.com/blog/UnusualBirds/unusual-birds-daily-tournaments