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Rapidfire220

Hello,

I want to improve on my current chess opening which is this because I have been told it is not a good opening.

I was trying out some moves and came up with these two different openings so please can you give me your thoughts on them and say which you think is best, and if you have any improvements please do share.

chessbeginner77

Hmm. seems like a very symmetrical approach. I am not sure you will get your opponent to copy your moves.

Rapidfire220

No, I just mirrored the same position for black to keep it simple. Regardless of the opponents position I would like to know if these are good openings.

chessbeginner77

I think that you should plan your opening towards controlling the center. Your knights are restricted in movement in your opening. Your bishops are in a bad position also since they are blocked by your own pawns.

Rapidfire220

I don't think you are more experienced than me. I want someone experienced to tell me about both of these openings.

It looks like both of these openings have good control of the centre with the centre pawns, bishops on the long diagonals and knights already controlling squares in the centre of the board. The knights are not significantly restricted and the bishops are not blocked by the pawns.

CoachConradAllison

The second is better, but don't be so quick to fianchetto your bishops and put you knight on c3 rather than d2, try and develop knights first, then bishops, to either b5/g5, f4/c4 or e3/d3, then castle.

PatrickRice

Hi, i would reccomend that you learn more 'standard' openings that you are more likely to come against. I will be posting a thread/article on this subject soon!

If you are looking to learn openings, i would suggest that you learn the following:

(White)

An e4 opening - Four Knights

A d4 opening - The Queen's Gambit Declined

Non e4/d4 opening - The Reti

(Black)

A response to e4 - The Caro Kann

A response to d4 - The Queens Gambit Declined.

 

You don't have to learn all of these of by heart straight away, but it could be a goal, and i am suggesting this as a way forward! as to your openings, your opponent can counter them right at the first move, so don't rely on them solely! This will all be covered in my coming article!

Rapidfire220

Thank you but the problem with knight to c3 is that it would block the fianchettoed bishop, but whether that matters depends on which side I castle on.

CoachConradAllison

To fianchetto the bishop is not very good in many situations, when it is clocked in by your or your opponents pawns, it is often bad.

Rapidfire220

Just because the fianchettod bishop is surrounded by pawns does not mean it is blocked by them. The bishop can easily move along the diagonal.

Rapidfire220

Yes good idea, I accept your challenge and let's play.

dsarkar

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Rapidfire220

I don't know what symmetry you are talking about, except the reason I did both white and black the same is that I am only demonstrating my opening and not the opponent's moves.

CoachConradAllison

The opening is not based on white's (or black's) moves alone, it is based on the both sets of moves.

Rapidfire220

I am considering my moves before I consider the opponents moves; because the opponent could play any opening but I want to know if my moves are good.

pvmike
Rapidfire220 wrote:

I am considering my moves before I consider the opponents moves; because the opponent could play any opening but I want to know if my moves are good.


your move may be good or bad it depends what your opponent plays

Cerdog

The problem is that you cannot know whether your own moves are good if you do not know what the opponent has played. For example, if your opponent responds to your first move of e4 with something like d5 or Nf6, you will have to change your plans completely.

In terms of position, though, you definitely have the right idea, but it is quite a passive strategy. Your openings could be improved by being a bit more ambitious.

Fromper
pvmike wrote:
Rapidfire220 wrote:

I am considering my moves before I consider the opponents moves; because the opponent could play any opening but I want to know if my moves are good.


your move may be good or bad it depends what your opponent plays


Exactly. After 1. e4 e6, every grandmaster on the planet will play 2. d4 next. Against 1. e4 e5, you almost never see 2. d4 at the grandmaster level. The same move can be good or bad depending on what your opponent does.

Rapidfire220, you're not playing your opening moves in a vacuum. You MUST take your opponent's moves into consideration.

Instead of trying to invent your own opening lines this way, ask what openings stronger players recommend for beginners, and learn to play the openings that masters play. I usually recommend the Giuoco Piano for beginners, answering 1. e4 with e5 as black, and answering 1. d4 with d5 as black, just to start.

--Fromper

Rapidfire220

Yes of course I would adapt it to the opponent's moves if I need to. I don't see it as to passive as on the second one I have the two bishops on the long diagonals pointing directly at the kingside position ready to attack, but perhaps the knights are too passive if that is what you meant.

Rapidfire220

In essence my second position is essentially Giuoco Piano, with a few modifications which are suited to my style and position.