Best opening for white

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Cosmicaly_Religious

I've played many games... Times have gone by... But the problem is what is the most useful opening so that white can get advantages from black? Now I'm not saying that I don't read books but it's hard to compare them and I'm not so good at chess, am I? So what's the most useful opening for white?

kennethshen

Well I think most answers would start with depends but I really hate it when people say that so I'm going to say the King's indian attack as it can be used against anything and gives you good attacking chances

Cosmicaly_Religious

Mark, it's none of your concerns to tell me what to play, I play whatever I feel like, the openings are important to every chess players, they can be used in any game, and your guess isn't correct either.  You think I got time for chess only, well you're wrong about that. Education is what I need the most, this is just hobby.

chesshole
markgravitygood wrote:

Public Forum. you asked. The risk is all yours.

The fact remains you are "not so good" because you play almost nothing but bullet and blitz. My Opinion. Take it or Leave it, I care not.

You get what you pay for, and bullet and blitz are cheap and easy, in a Walmart sort of way.

i have gotten better from playing bullet and blitz.  if you played me in bullet i would whoop you gangnam style.

AlxMaster

I know books and databases say e4, but you know what, they are wrong because, nothing is really like that you know, for example 1+1 is not necessarily 2, therefore it's scientifically proven that 1.Na3 is the strongest move. g4 is also cool, as you can bet on an early pawnstorm on a potentially kingside castled king.

chesshole
AlxMaster wrote:

I know books and databases say e4, but you know what, they are wrong because, nothing is really like that you know, for example 1+1 is not necessarily 2, therefore it's scientifically proven that 1.Na3 is the strongest move. g4 is also cool, as you can bet on an early pawnstorm on a potentially kingside castled king.

well at least you tried to troll...at least you tried Undecided

nyshoefly

I like tacos!

chasingthecrown

after centuries of study, and decades of computer analysis - we still don't know if the opening position is a win for white, or a draw for black. the most amazing thing about chess is the game itself.

ponz111

As far as what opening has given the bes


t practical results it is this:

ponz111

chasingthecrown  While this is not proven--the very best players such as grandmasters and supergrandmasters almost all agree chess is a draw when played without error. 

MortenSF87

Why not study the Chinese Dragon (10..Rb8)? Known for being sharp, but requires accurate play. 10..Rc8 is the Classical Dragon.

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/chinese-dragon

gundamv

Depends on your style.  Ruy Lopez is good, Queen's Gambit (what ponz111 showed above) is good, English is good.  Reti (Nf3) is good too but it can transpose into many different openings.

chasingthecrown

ponz111 May be true that experts are in agreement on opening position being a draw for black- and they may very well be correct. My point, however, is that we do not "know" - and this is remarkable when the best computers can analyze billions of positions during a 3 minute move. What other game of skill could withstand such research, and still be so fresh?

IDASP

I've heard the Nimzo-Larsen leads to an equal position or an advantage

DefinitelyNotGM

The best opening for white is the Lolli Attack

Andre_Harding

The Ruy Lopez and the Queen's Gambit, of course. Against Sicilians/Indian Defenses, any mainline.

watcha

My opinion about best possible first move by white can be summarized this way:

1.) Apart from e4 and d4 all other moves are inferior. There is nothing that you can achieve with other moves that can not be achieved by e4 or d4, but you risk certain disadvantages by moves other than d4 or e4.

2.) Though e4 looks more sharp and dangerous in reality black has ample resources to equalize. Very dangerous looking and agressive lines in e4 openings like the Kings Gambit or Scotch Game are in reality more dangerous to white than black. Even the Ruy-Lopez, which is truly a solid line can be equalized by the Berlin defense in a foolproof way.

3.) Objectively speaking the positional 1. d4 is the most powerful move that white can make because it guarantees lasting spatial advantage which black will find hard to break. The best for black is to accept the spatial disadvantage with some Queens Gambit Declined formation because the alternative is to engage in potentially suicidal hypermodern maneuvres. All in all white has more lasting chances to break black's resistance and at least a comfortable draw is not in jeopardy with this system. While in the sharp e4 system things can very quickly and very easily turn against white.

asvpcurtis
RatDogFriday wrote:

Public Forum. you asked. The risk is all yours.

The fact remains you are "not so good" because you play almost nothing but bullet and blitz. My Opinion. Take it or Leave it, I care not.

You get what you pay for, and bullet and blitz are cheap and easy, in a Walmart sort of way.

while i'll agree that bullet is garbage blitz is not i am roughly the same playing strength otb as you and that is all from playing blitz for a couple years then just one year of getting used to otb

Mainline_Novelty
watcha wrote:

My opinion about best possible first move by white can be summarized this way:

1.) Apart from e4 and d4 all other moves are inferior. There is nothing that you can achieve with other moves that can not be achieved by e4 or d4, but you risk certain disadvantages by moves other than d4 or e4.

2.) Though e4 looks more sharp and dangerous in reality black has ample resources to equalize. Very dangerous looking and agressive lines in e4 openings like the Kings Gambit or Scotch Game are in reality more dangerous to white than black. Even the Ruy-Lopez, which is truly a solid line can be equalized by the Berlin defense in a foolproof way.

3.) Objectively speaking the positional 1. d4 is the most powerful move that white can make because it guarantees lasting spatial advantage which black will find hard to break. The best for black is to accept the spatial disadvantage with some Queens Gambit Declined formation because the alternative is to engage in potentially suicidal hypermodern maneuvres. All in all white has more lasting chances to break black's resistance and at least a comfortable draw is not in jeopardy with this system. While in the sharp e4 system things can very quickly and very easily turn against white.

lol

Andre_Harding
Mainline_Novelty wrote:
watcha wrote:

My opinion about best possible first move by white can be summarized this way:

1.) Apart from e4 and d4 all other moves are inferior. There is nothing that you can achieve with other moves that can not be achieved by e4 or d4, but you risk certain disadvantages by moves other than d4 or e4.

2.) Though e4 looks more sharp and dangerous in reality black has ample resources to equalize. Very dangerous looking and agressive lines in e4 openings like the Kings Gambit or Scotch Game are in reality more dangerous to white than black. Even the Ruy-Lopez, which is truly a solid line can be equalized by the Berlin defense in a foolproof way.

3.) Objectively speaking the positional 1. d4 is the most powerful move that white can make because it guarantees lasting spatial advantage which black will find hard to break. The best for black is to accept the spatial disadvantage with some Queens Gambit Declined formation because the alternative is to engage in potentially suicidal hypermodern maneuvres. All in all white has more lasting chances to break black's resistance and at least a comfortable draw is not in jeopardy with this system. While in the sharp e4 system things can very quickly and very easily turn against white.

lol

What do you mean "lol?" The points made by watcha are very sensible. I think his points 2 and 3 are somewhat exaggerated, but not that much.