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seongmin20p7
Can people tell me what the best opening might be for black if the white opens up with 1 e4?
kindaspongey

The March 2019 issue of Chess lists the top twenty openings compiled from a list of 2458 January games where both players were rated over 2400 Elo. One can not take position on this list too seriously because it is greatly influenced by how the openings are grouped. For example, all the Retis are grouped together, while English is separated into 1...c5, 1...e5, etc. Nevertheless, for what it is worth, some of the list entries are: 180 Retis, 129 Caro-Kanns, 102 King's Indians, 84 Nimzo-Indians, 80 declined Queen's Gambits, 74 Najdorf Sicilians, 69 Slavs, 60 1...e5 Englishes, 58 1...Nf6 Englishes, 53 Berlin Ruy Lopezes, 51 1...c5 Englishes, 50 Kan Sicilians, 50 Giuoco Pianos, 49 Classical Gruenfelds, 46 3 Nxe5 Petroffs, and 44 Taimanov Sicilians.

"... A typical way of choosing an opening repertoire is to copy the openings used by a player one admires. ... However, what is good at world-championship level is not always the best choice at lower levels of play, and it is often a good idea to choose a 'model' who is nearer your own playing strength. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)

blueemu
seongmin20p7 wrote:
Can people tell me what the best opening might be for black if the white opens up with 1 e4?

The "best opening" is the one that leads to a position in which you feel comfortable and confident. At our level of play, the opening serves no other purpose.

ThrillerFan

1...c5, 1...c6, 1...e5, and 1...e6 are the four soundest responses to 1.e4.  Other moves, while playable, are weaker.

 

Which of those 4 is best?  As others have already mentioned, whichever best fits you!  For me it's 1...e6 and 1...e5.  For someone else, it's 1...c5.  For someone else, it's 1...c6.

 

Don't bother asking which of the four is best.  You got as clear of an answer you will ever get!

Totally_Winsome

I have good luck with E5

Noquette

You have to build your own opening library and stay with it, on e4 I'm playing the French defence.

RedEye12
The best reply against e4 is the Sicilian, c5 and is really popular and is used by the top players at chess such as Garry Kasparov.
RedEye12
Here are some other moves against e4 for black:

e6 - French Defense

e5 - Open Game

d6 - Pirc Defence

d5 - Scandinavian Defense

c6 - Caro Khan

a6 - St George’s Defense

b6 - Owen’s Defense

g6 Modern Defense
my137thaccount
RedEye12 wrote:
Here are some other moves against e4 for black:

e6 - French Defense

e5 - Open Game

d6 - Pirc Defence

d5 - Scandinavian Defense

c6 - Caro Khan

a6 - St George’s Defense

b6 - Owen’s Defense

g6 Modern Defense

This is misleading. It's true that the Sicilian is a good response to 1.e4, but it's not the best - it's just one of several reasonable responses.

Best:

1...e5 - Open Game

1...c5 - Sicilian

1...e6 - French

1...c6 - Caro-Kann

Perfectly reasonable:

1...g6 or 1...d6 - Modern Defense

1...d6 - Pirc

1...d5 - Scandinavian (I think some people would put this in the 'inferior' section)

Slightly inferior or bad:

1...d6 - Philidor

1...b6 - Owen's Defense

1...a6 - St George Defense

See these are not all equal, but the first four certainly are - it's not true that the Sicilian is better than the French for example. Also, 1...d6 can be several things depending on how you follow it up, a Pirc is not guaranteed.

 

kindaspongey
my137thaccount  wrote:

… Best: 1...e5 ,,, 1...c5 … 1...e6 … 1...c6 … Perfectly reasonable: 1...g6 … 1...d6 … Slightly inferior or bad: 1...d6 … 1...b6 ...

What about 1...d5, 1...Nf6, and 1...Nc6 ?

By the way, about eight years ago, IM Greet wrote a book to help 1 e4 players with the alternatives to 1...e5, 1...c5, 1...c6, and 1...e6. According to one review, the topics of Beating Unusual Chess Defences 1 e4 were: Scandinavian Defence, Modern Defence, Pirc Defence, Philidor and Czech Pirc, Alekhine’s Defence, and Other Defences.

http://marshtowers.blogspot.com/2011/11/chess-reviews-190.html

"... If you play 1 e4, then you have to be ready for a wide array of defences. The Sicilian, Caro-Kann, French, and 1...e5 are all huge topics, ... But ... there are numerous other less common but still highly respectable defences for which one must be prepared. The Alekhine, Modern, Pirc, Scandinavian, and others all require serious attention, ... I have laid out a comprehensive repertoire for White against each of the aforementioned openings, plus all other irregular defences after 1 e4 which fall outside of the 'big four'. ..."

https://www.amazon.com/Beating-Unusual-Chess-Defences-Scandinavian/dp/1857446216

my137thaccount
kindaspongey wrote:
my137thaccount  wrote:

… Best: 1...e5 ,,, 1...c5 … 1...e6 … 1...c6 … Perfectly reasonable: 1...g6 … 1...d6 … Slightly inferior or bad: 1...d6 … 1...b6 ...

What about 1...d5, 1...Nf6, and 1...Nc6 ?

By the way, about eight years ago, IM Greet wrote a book to help 1 e4 players with the alternatives to 1...e5, 1...c5, 1...c6, and 1...e6. According to one review, the topics of Beating Unusual Chess Defences 1 e4 were: Scandinavian Defence, Modern Defence, Pirc Defence, Philidor and Czech Pirc, Alekhine’s Defence, and Other Defences.

http://marshtowers.blogspot.com/2011/11/chess-reviews-190.html

"... If you play 1 e4, then you have to be ready for a wide array of defences. The Sicilian, Caro-Kann, French, and 1...e5 are all huge topics, ... But ... there are numerous other less common but still highly respectable defences for which one must be prepared. The Alekhine, Modern, Pirc, Scandinavian, and others all require serious attention, ... I have laid out a comprehensive repertoire for White against each of the aforementioned openings, plus all other irregular defences after 1 e4 which fall outside of the 'big four'. ..."

https://www.amazon.com/Beating-Unusual-Chess-Defences-Scandinavian/dp/1857446216

I didn't include these because the person I was responding to didn't either

kindaspongey
"... I didn't include these because the person I was responding to didn't either" - my137thaccount (~3 minutes ago)
RedEye12 wrote (~7 hours ago):
… d5 - Scandinavian Defense ...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

my137thaccount
kindaspongey wrote:
"... I didn't include these because the person I was responding to didn't either" - my137thaccount (~3 minutes ago)
RedEye12 wrote (~7 hours ago):
… d5 - Scandinavian Defense ...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

OK, me being careless

Zugerzwang
Yes, it's the one your opponent is least prepared for and has the worst record against.
RedEye12
You do have a point about the situation but the engine usually prefers c5. e5 can sometimes lead to aggressive openings such as the Ruy Lopez, c6 block the usual square for your knight and e6 blocks your light square bishop on it’s usual diagonal. c5 though blocks your bishop it doesn’t block it fully. c5 also sort out the problem that after e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 you block your own c pawn. I understand about what you said but the Sicilian usually doesn’t affect the development of pieces that much.
RedEye12
Thanks kindaspongey I forgot about Nc6 and Nf6
Thalaiva98

My personal favorite is the French opening against e4 (Line: e4 e6 – d4 d5 – e5 c5). More often than not, opponent blunders in the opening phase against French at my level (around 1300). Other openings that I like are:

  • Sicilian Defense: e4 c5 – Nf3 d6 – d4 cxd4
  • Scotch Game: e4 e5 – Nf3 Nc6 – d4 exd4
DasBurner
my137thaccount wrote:
RedEye12 wrote:
Here are some other moves against e4 for black:

e6 - French Defense

e5 - Open Game

d6 - Pirc Defence

d5 - Scandinavian Defense

c6 - Caro Khan

a6 - St George’s Defense

b6 - Owen’s Defense

g6 Modern Defense

This is misleading. It's true that the Sicilian is a good response to 1.e4, but it's not the best - it's just one of several reasonable responses.

Best:

1...e5 - Open Game

1...c5 - Sicilian

1...e6 - French

1...c6 - Caro-Kann

Perfectly reasonable:

1...g6 or 1...d6 - Modern Defense

1...d6 - Pirc

1...d5 - Scandinavian (I think some people would put this in the 'inferior' section)

Slightly inferior or bad:

1...d6 - Philidor

1...b6 - Owen's Defense

1...a6 - St George Defense

See these are not all equal, but the first four certainly are - it's not true that the Sicilian is better than the French for example. Also, 1...d6 can be several things depending on how you follow it up, a Pirc is not guaranteed.

 

there's no way the Philidor is in the same category as a6 and b6 (yes I know it was years ago but still)

ChessBeginner35

The engine prefers 1. c5, but truly, the best opening could be anything that you win consistently with, whether it be the Sicilian or the Scandinavian or the Caro-Kann or even the St. George. Play to your strengths (and your opponent's weaknesses) and you'll do well no matter what your engine says is best.

NikkiLikeChikki
If there were a best opening, everyone would use it, everyone would be prepared against it, then someone who is great at a worse opening would beat people who are prepared only for the best opening. Preparation beats “objectively best” more often than not.