Birds opening 3. g3 vs e3 vs d4

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DigitalSignals
Hey all, I'm a birds enthusiast and a solid 800 rating in blitz. I mostly play 5 minutes but I'm wondering when to play g3 bg2 or when to play d4 e3 or e3 d4 both followed by be2 and what the main ideas are. I know that e3 d4 play leads to a stonewall structure and in the g3 line the main aim is to push d3 and e4. My question is which responses of black should lead to which line and what are the main ideas of the lines that I didn't describe? Thanks Mick Bird gang
ThrillerFan

The Stonewall structure is rarely good.  There is one line it would work well against, but I would have to dig up my Bird's Opening book to find again which case that is.  Do not forget about the classical setup.  f4/Nf3/e3/d3/Be2/O-O playing for e4.

MTL_Made

i think there are a few good set ups. A reverse leningrad dutch is very good, the stonewall is very good, those f4, e3, nf3, b3, bb5 setups are good. there's no real theory in the sense you only play a certain set up against Black's specific response. you just play whichever setup you want

poucin

if u are 800 (solid??), u should play something simple.

Stonewall is simple and straightforward.

d4-e3-f4-Nf3-Bd3, castle and go for kingside attack with Ne5, Rf3(or Qf3)-Rh3, sometimes with g4-g5.

At your level (up to 2000 and more maybe) it will be very effective.

Objectively speaking, not a great opening but who cares at your level (and up to 2000 once again and more).

Forget playing reversed leningrad or other creatures like that. Not for your level, too complicated to handle.

DigitalSignals
poucin wrote:

if u are 800 (solid??), u should play something simple.

Stonewall is simple and straightforward.

d4-e3-f4-Nf3-Bd3, castle and go for kingside attack with Ne5, Rf3(or Qf3)-Rh3, sometimes with g4-g5.

At your level (up to 2000 and more maybe) it will be very effective.

Objectively speaking, not a great opening but who cares at your level (and up to 2000 once again and more).

Forget playing reversed leningrad or other creatures like that. Not for your level, too complicated to handle.

I was basicly playing a stonewall structure but in reverse, by playing f4 nf3 d4 e3 bd3 but i guess it's better then to switch the order ?

sndeww

Personally I play the Leningrad (g3) instead of classical (e3) but I agree with @poucin here, the classical plan is much more straightforward: just develop, castle, pawn storm and win. Objectively equal but isn’t so easy for black, especially when you don’t have great defensive skills.

sfxe

Lmao playing the stonewall is what rocketed me up from 900 to 1300

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