Bongcloud opening

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DrizztD

But seriously, how do you get the diagram to do that!?!

theoreticalboy

Probably better for black is the Anti Bongcloud: Triple Toke Attack

 

Anybody who wishes to look into this variation can send me a challenge.  Unrated though, because I'm not stupid enough to go against the Bongcloud with anything on the line...

hic2482w
theoreticalboy wrote:

Probably better for black is the Anti Bongcloud: Triple Toke Attack

 

 

Anybody who wishes to look into this variation can send me a challenge.  Unrated though, because I'm not stupid enough to go against the Bongcloud with anything on the line...


 Actually, the idea behind the Bongcloud is to get the king on the dynamic g3/h3 pendulum, swinging between those squares to counter every black attack.

Here is a game from a "Winning with the Bongcloud" link someone posted earlier.

theoreticalboy

No dueds, the point of the Bongcloud is to get yr king to the other side, man.  The point of the Anti-Bongcloud: Triple Toke Attack is that it sets up a gigantic reefer barrier in the middle of the board, and so prevents white's king from breaking through to the final rank, at least until all the morsels are done with.

The only point I could see to your line is that black may get distracted taking pieces and allow kingside penetration, but the king movements are a departure from the aims of the true Bongcloud king.

hic2482w
theoreticalboy wrote:

No dueds, the point of the Bongcloud is to get yr king to the other side, man.  The point of the Anti-Bongcloud: Triple Toke Attack is that it sets up a gigantic reefer barrier in the middle of the board, and so prevents white's king from breaking through to the final rank, at least until all the morsels are done with.

The only point I could see to your line is that black may get distracted taking pieces and allow kingside penetration, but the king movements are a departure from the aims of the true Bongcloud king.


 I see your point, illustrated perfectly with this game. I was too lazy to put it on a diagram though.

12. Kxg7 Ne8+?
38. Nb3! Kd5
The a-pawn is doomed to die, and all hopes of black winning go along with it. White, with his crushing positional advantage, cruises to an easy win.
ivandh

Just watche the colors, dueds.
hic2482w

Yes, there are 2 main ways to play the bongcloud.

1. I find this way more useful, as so did the author of this bongcloud guide:

This way is quickly getting the king to the dynamic g3/h3 pendulum to counter every black threat.

2. This way is a much simpler way, a "get in, get out" way with the king.

ivandh

I am trying the first way, with the 1. f4 2. Kf2 which controls the allimportant king side and gets your king to the g3 square.

But there is also the third way, the double Bongcloud trap, such as the Fortress variation, which after playing Bongcloud then goes into normal game, your opponent is fooled into thinking normal game, then you get elelemelent of surprhise and martch your king to the other side man.

hic2482w

oh! smart man! he thinks you have recovered from your "dubious" opening, and then when he is unaware, you make your move, moving your king and trapping his.

Conquistador

We need someone to make a Bongcloud group to further the teachings of King Lenny!

Here pass the invitation wrapped in a trout.

hic2482w

I currently joined a group already, "Boungcloud Society", but it only has 3 members, including me. It would be nice if either more people join the Boungcloud Society group, or if someone makes a group and then invites me.

On the topic, of boungclouds, bongclouds, and Bongwolke in german, I found a nice variation in the link posted earlier.

Conquistador

Better is the Bongcloud Gambit!

1.e4 e5 2.Ke2! Nf6 3.Qe1 Nxe4 4.Kd1!!

Why don't you post the link to your group all of us know which circle to join.  I can recruit a few people for the group.

theblindtiger

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/bongcloud-opening?lc=1#last_comment

Tom_van_Diepen

I think you guys may be interested in the Ricecake9 Burrito Attack (see The Never Ending Chess Story (mistakenly under the heading of Fun with Chess), #613 - you are welcome).

theblindtiger

Look at this. This thread sadly is another example of a boring chess conference.

I ought to lighten this up a bit. 

 

Laughing 

Conquistador
Tom_van_Diepen wrote:

I think you guys may be interested in the Ricecake9 Burrito Attack (see The Never Ending Chess Story (mistakenly under the heading of Fun with Chess), #613 - you are welcome).


Dued the King is going the wrong way man he needs to go to the unstoppable h3 square!

1.e3 e5 2.Ke2 d5 3.Kd3?-The Ricecake9 Burrito Attack

Tom_van_Diepen

The Ricecake9 Burrito Attack is actually formed by:

1. e3 e5 2. Ke2 d6 3. Kd3 d5

So, importantly, it is white's move.

(d5 obviously played with the white king going for e4 and f3 in mind)

Conquistador

Do you mean 1.e3 e5 2.Ke2 d6 3.Kd3 d5?

Tom_van_Diepen

Thanks for correcting, I've changed my entry.

Conquistador

Okay, can someone create the Bongcloud Group?  I would do it myself, but alas I am only a basic member.  We can call it King Lenny Bongcloud and the Knights of Malta!

Here is the perfect picture to go along with it.

All hail King Lenny!