Breyer, Marshall or Berlin Wall?

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chessmaster7227

hi guys!

 

So baisically I am a 2100 ELO player who has played the Sicilian his whole life, and now wants to develop a repertoire around 1...e5. Against the Ruy Lopez/Spanish, I have been examining the Breyer, Marshall and Berlin Wall - wonder if you guys could recommend which one would best suit my tactical, attacking style without having to learn loads of theory immediately in order to start playing it.

 

any book reccomendations related to the above openings would also be appreciated.

 

thanks,

 

harry.

poucin

Well, the breyer is the better option in my opinion.

Safe and can be sharp.

U can play it without much theory, playing with plans.

Larry Kaufmann in his repertoire for black and white is perfect.

Synthetic and useful to begin and even mastering Breyer.

Then, if u want more, Bologan mass book on Ruy Lopez, with double repertoire : Breyer/Marshall, but this is so huge to learn...

chessmaster7227

Thanks poucin, great answer. I think I have Bologan's book - but I found it very hard work. 

blitzcopter

Just curious as to why you wanted to learn ...e5 lines? Not exactly something one would choose for the excitement. :P

chessmaster7227

In my experience, when playing for the win against a lower rated player the Sicilian is ideal... But if you want something solid against a 2300/2400 then 1..e5 looks to be a more solid choice. This is all just my opinion, of course.

HolyKing

@blitzcopter, 1...e5 is crucial for developement as a chess player.

chessmaster7227

Also true... The lines are so rich in theory, from what I have seen so far

Pulpofeira

I agree, I'm playing ...e5 to learn. Maybe the OP's case is different, since he's already an expert.

chessmaster7227

1...e5 is probably the most popular move at beginner and grandmaster levels - should definitely not be underestimated 

Pulpofeira

What do you think about the open variation?

chessmaster7227

Thanks pfren - just what I was looking for.

blitzcopter
HolyKing wrote:

@blitzcopter, 1...e5 is crucial for developement as a chess player.

Primarily I was asking why an attacking/tactical player would look more toward ...e5, not that no one needs to understand it.

Personally I would likely perform reasonably with ...e5 (against reasonable opposition), but it tends to lead to rather dry positions that don't look that fun (and I am not a particularly sharp/dynamic player). Certainly ...e5 is very viable but it may not be to everyone's taste.

chessmaster7227

From what I've seen so far, the Breyer appears to be the best choice for me.

 

does anyone have any preference for the Berlin?

HolyKing

@blitzcopter, dry positions??? I am a french player, but I take the time everyday to play through some open games just so that I could see the vast expanses of positional and tactical ideas.

@chessmaster, I dont know if you know about this, but you can play the Marshall without studying all the dense theory by not playing the ...c6 line. Instead ....Bb7 and ...Nf6!? are very playable and bypasses a lot of theory in my opinion. ...Bb7 is not as wild as the ...c6 line. ....Nf6 was Marshall's original idea preparing an aggresive ...Ng4 after ...Bd6. But I dont know if this is favourable at your level of play.

chessmaster7227

@HolyKing - I am really playing 1...e5 in order to achieve solid positions and unfortunately white can gain a nice edge against ...Nf6, I seem to recall. Thanks for your suggestion though.

HolyKing

Yup, then the mainlines should be best.

blitzcopter

I don't know much about the Marshall, but Marshall's original Nf6 is at best really sketchy. Mainlines look tough though!

@HolyKing: well, not in every line, of course, but White can kind of dictate the craziness of the position, but my impression is that few strong players go for the really open stuff.

Pulpofeira

Wow, I guessed the hunt would have ended in the kingside!

chessmaster7227

Can anyone reccomend a Breyer book which allows a quick understanding of the critical lines?

Pulpofeira

I've been playing Breyer with not much success. Of course at my level the issue is not about your opening choice, but still I feel a bit cramped and I don't like that. And suddenly there's a bang and tactics explode on my face. I've been thinking on switch to open variation, but the fact Korchnoi likes it makes it a little scary...