Caro-kann defense problem

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xxvalakixx

Hello everybody!

I have a problem with the caro-kann defense. It is a good opening, but I rarery play it. (I prefer french or sicilian instead) But nowadays I dont really like the sicilian, (Because I prefer closed games currently) so I should play Caro-kann instead. I played a game long time ago with it, and I had serious problems after g4.
I wont play correctly the moves we played, I just show the idea, because I have problem with that.

imsodumicantdie

5...h5!? could probably work

Instead of f6?? which loses immediately, try fxe6 followed by Bf7

xxvalakixx

Hmm, h5 is not a bad idea, I will test it. bxf6 followed by Bf7 is not so good, it will still give a positional weakness for black, but maybe I can give the pawn back after blaying e5 followed by e6.

I wait other's answers as well, but it was quite usefull.

Edit: Ok so. After g4. Be4 white has the move f3, which will lead to quite same situation. I have to go back with the bishop, and white can play e6.

ElvinWilliams

Good Question. Like you stated in your analysis g4 is an aggresive move but also commital and weakening to whites pawn position. I believe that 4.g4 is sharp and forces black to find correct moves but is not best. I think lines that run 4.Nc3, 5. g4 are probably sharper objectivly for white.I would suggest looking at Sam Shankland's Caro Kann series on the Advance Variation part 1 which reviews the aggresive lines 4.h4 ; 4.g4 and 4.Nc3 

One side note before I say more is also look into 4. g4 Bd7 giving Black a french position where g4 is a misplaced pawn. If you already play the french you may feel this is more comfortable and you take white out of their prep and back to closed positional games. 

This is how I would play these positions as a Caro Kann player

I would love to hear other peoples ideas in these lines and I hoped this helped a little or gets more people discussing these critical lines.

Keep in mind that you are worrying about blacks 1 positional weakness when white has 0 pieces developed and played e4, d4, e5, g4, f3, h4, and e6

Wrinn

Here's an interesting idea after Be4.  Maybe dubious, but it seems pretty sharp:



gundamv

3...c5!?

The Botvinnik-Karls Gambit

chessnutman
ElvinWilliams wrote:

 
 That's how I would play it as well, normal development Nd7,e6,Bd6, Ne7 and long castling following shortly. White's king side is a mess, looking good for black I think.
DubExclam
theres always this variation of the advanced
i almost prefer they push d3 and cxd3

 

adityasaxena4

 

I've never actually tried it before but maybe something this ridiculous could work !

TRAP4MOUSE
DubExclam wrote:
 
theres always this variation of the advanced
i almost prefer they push d3 and cxd3

 

Are yuh kidding yuh have revived a 7years old forum 

Sekada

Hmm, I wonder if this guy still plays caro

TRAP4MOUSE

But caro can is best opening to play defensively against high rated 

TRAP4MOUSE

I better suggest this opening in rapid