start with the italian game 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4
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Thanks, but i already know that one, im not that new of a player. i started playing when i was 4. So i got all the basic openings down. I'm looking for somthing that goes into depth.
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Ok, it’s going to be quite apparent at how new I really am to the game after I ask this question, but I have been racking my brain over it, and an opening thread seems like the best place to field it, so here goes. Since pvmike used the Italian game opening, I’ll use that opening as an example as well. What if black doesn’t respond to e4 with e5? For instance, if black responds to e4 with d5, white can’t very well say to himself “I’m going to develop my knight to f3 now because I want to play the Italian game.” I guess my question is: how can we really use an opening when both sides of the board have to play precise lines? Anyone?
Nov 30, 2008
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You learn an opening based on the best lines, if black does something that isn't in the best lines it's usually a good thing for you, however you have to prepare for the times that black does something different that's a decent defence (ie in the first 3/4 moves), e.g. the sicilian against e4. You prepare as much as you can and then just use the principles of openings and normal chess skills to get through the openings you don't know, or the lines of the opening you play that you don't know.
gimly wrote:
Ok, it’s going to be quite apparent at how new I really am to the game after I ask this question, but I have been racking my brain over it, and an opening thread seems like the best place to field it, so here goes. Since pvmike used the Italian game opening, I’ll use that opening as an example as well. What if black doesn’t respond to e4 with e5? For instance, if black responds to e4 with d5, white can’t very well say to himself “I’m going to develop my knight to f3 now because I want to play the Italian game.” I guess my question is: how can we really use an opening when both sides of the board have to play precise lines? Anyone?
I would just play D3, to protect your pawn (white) on E4.
Dec 2, 2008
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Gimly,
Check out refences on the Scandinavian/Center Counter Defense.
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 and off it goes.
Assassin,
Depends on what you like. Do you want to risk losing to have a better chance of winning? Do you prefer keeping the half point and lower your chance of winning? How much time do you have? If you've been playing enough to know you don't like the Guiocco then you should be able to, at least, better define the question.
For white: d4 - Queens gambit and Trompowsky
For black: French defense and Dutch Defense
Dec 2, 2008
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Shahab,
If he plays QG per your suggestion what does he do when his opponent follows your suggestion for black and plays Dutch? BTW do you enter the Dutch with 1. d4 f5 or 1. d4 e6 2. c4 f5? Are you looking for a Stonewall or a Lenningrad Dutch and do you have trouble with the Staunton Gambit? I played them some time ago and am curious as to what you think.
Assassin2142, if you want to go into depth on openings, why don't you try out learning the Nimzowitsch Defence and the variations that go from it? If you are interested, I am playing a correspondence game right now and I just opened with the Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Nimzowitsch Variation Quiet Line. This is the line: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3
Hope I was of help.
Grakovsky wrote:
Assassin2142, if you want to go into depth on openings, why don't you try out learning the Nimzowitsch Defence and the variations that go from it? If you are interested, I am playing a correspondence game right now and I just opened with the Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Nimzowitsch Variation Quiet Line. This is the line: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3
Hope I was of help.
Yup, a LOT of help (seriously), Thank you.
gimly> I guess my question is: how can we really use an opening when both sides of the board have to play precise lines? Anyone?
Excellent question. Learn opening principles and apply them in your games. If you also know a bit about tactics, you'll be fine, whatever lines your opponent throws at you. In fact, you'll often do better--because you'll understand the position when a booked-up opponent goes out of book and becomes confused. Books that focus on opening principles include Improve Your Opening Play Now & Ideas Behind the Chess Openings.
Of course, if you end up playing a line often--which happens as you play stronger opponents--it's helpful to memorize it because that saves you clock time. The same for common middlegame plans that those moves suggest, which are explained in books on specific openings. The faster your games, the more precious clock time is. There also are lines so annoying, that facing them once is enough (eg, the Fried Liver Attack).
These two approaches to openings complement each other.
Hey, How's it going? I was wondering if anyone knows any good openings for me. I'm an average player (I think). I have almost a 1400 rating and I am 15yrs old. When I lose games it is usually because i do bad from the start. I need to learn some openings but I don't know which ones I should learn for each color. If you could help me I would appreciate it a lot. Thank you.