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SQUEAKERISCHESSKING

Hello! I am looking to play the colle system as white and was wondering if anyone could recommend an advanced book for me to use. I am a class A player USCF so I do not want a beginning book. I catch on pretty fast. Need a highly detailed book. Thanks!

ThrillerFan

The Move by Move series is not a beginner book.  It's simply a different format.  I'm currently reading "The Caro-Kann Move by Move", and I'm over 2100.

The Colle Move by Move by Cyrus Lakdawala.

MR57
I played the Colle for years with limited results. I gave it up. Played London for awhile. Have you tried the Trompowsky? I'm going to stick with this. I like how you get your dark square bishop out early My expert friend has played for 40 yrs no matter what with Colle you get stuck with your bishop on c1
ThrillerFan
JohnClairlively wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

 I'm over 2100.

LOL

Uhm, why do you laugh?  It's not a lie.  See for yourself:

http://www.uschess.org/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,181/

USCF ID is 12663277

bresando

Lakdawala has a very peculiar writing style (some find it fun, other find it unbearable). You should probably check an excerpt of his work before buying.

Another problem is that he really writes too much; be publishes several books every year, meaning that the quality is quite uneven: he alternates really nice books (for example the caro-kann one was quite good IMHO) and very approssimative works (the problen also being that he sometimes whites on openings which he hasn't really played much). So you are advised to check carefully some reviews before buying his book. 

An alternative (and actually my recommendation) may be Palliser book on the colle (he also has another volume on the seemingly more attractive colle-zukertort), also published by everyman chess. I gave a look to both Palliser books some time ago and i think they are quite good. Palliser is a very respected and honest author (don't buy his book if you want to hear that you can play the colle setup against everything and get a good game, because he is too honest to tell such a lie), and his explanations very clear.

bresando
JohnClairlively wrote:

We all play 2100 chess when 100% of our moves just "coincidentally" happen to be exact matches for the top choices of 3000 strength engines.

Pytiful. He is talking about his real otb rating.

Do you really think that stepping in a thread without adding anything to the discussion apart for a "LOL" and a random cheating accusation to another member will make him look stupid and you look clever? Bad news for you: it's actually the other way round.

SQUEAKERISCHESSKING

lol. Amen to that

SQUEAKERISCHESSKING

IM pfren what book do you think is good? Palliser?

johnyoudell

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ThrillerFan

In response to bresando and ignoring the mentally retarded JohnClairlively (sorry pfren, I absolutely DO NOT take things lightly when someone wrongfully accuses me of cheating), I can say that I have not specifically browsed the book on the Colle, but I have a good number of other books of his, and here's my take on those:

Veresov (Ferocious Opening Repertoire) - I'm a little more skeptical of this book versus his others, especially given that it has been figured out that 3.Nbd7 4.f3 is not particularly good for White, and I think he just tries to give that line a perception spin by putting in games where Black errored a few too many times.

Caro-Kann, MBM - Like you said, a very strong piece of work

Slav, MBM - Not quite as strong as the Caro-Kann book.  I think he has some flawed analysis in the 6.Ne5 lines

Modern, MBM - Like the Caro-Kann, and excellent work.  I especially like how he arranges the book better than Tiger did, trying to bunch all the Hippos in one chapter when really it can come from various systems, like in the Classical Variation if White plays an early a4 or Bc4, Lakdawala includes this in the Classical Chapter instead of putting "All other" Classical lines in one chapter and oh by the way, don't forget to look at the hippo chapter.

1...d6, MBM - Well written except the reader needs to understand that the lines with an early f4 simply are just better for White with best play.  If Black can accept that, this is a fine work.

I can't speak for any of the other books by Lakdawala other than reputation from the 5 I have of his.