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timeless_thoughts

Does anybody know some very very complex openings. I read today's article and I loved the way black played in that opening. Are there any other openings for black or white just like that

bastiaan

Why don't you pick your own moves one by one in the opening, you can get the game as complex as you like. Just keep basic principles in mind

timeless_thoughts

That does make alot of sense

nuclearturkey
bastiaan wrote:

Why don't you pick your own moves one by one in the opening, you can get the game as complex as you like. Just keep basic principles in mind


Surely trying to reinvent the wheel every game is not the way to improvement.

bastiaan
nuclearturkey wrote:
bastiaan wrote:

Why don't you pick your own moves one by one in the opening, you can get the game as complex as you like. Just keep basic principles in mind


Surely trying to reinvent the wheel every game is not the way to improvement.

No, but thinking about each of your moves can't be wrong either. Especially in the opening, where most logical choices are part of an existing opening.
I don't know many openings, but not sticking to one leaves options which are overlooked easily when using one. At least that's what I think.

bondiggity
bastiaan wrote:
nuclearturkey wrote:
bastiaan wrote:

Why don't you pick your own moves one by one in the opening, you can get the game as complex as you like. Just keep basic principles in mind


Surely trying to reinvent the wheel every game is not the way to improvement.

No, but thinking about each of your moves can't be wrong either. Especially in the opening, where most logical choices are part of an existing opening.
I don't know many openings, but not sticking to one leaves options which are overlooked easily when using one. At least that's what I think.


Most of the extremely complex openings are in a way 'illogical'  One side makes imbalances, either be it with pawn structures, pawn sac, or even piece sacrifices. This leads to extremely complex openings, as one side may have more material etc, but the other side usually has a powerful initiative.

 

To the OP, I suggest maybe looking at the Perenyi attack. 

timeless_thoughts

can you post a game with the perenyi attack?

bondiggity

BigTy

Here's some complex ones, but if you are going to take one up make sure you learn the theory, or your dead!

Sicilians: Sveshnikov, Najdorf, Schveningen, Dragon.

French Winawer

Some lines of the ruy lopez, like the Marshall and Zaitsev variations

The KID, Gruenfeld, Dutch Leningrad and Semi-Slav are some very complicated replies to 1.d4

Some line of the Pirc and Alekhine's defence can also be very complex, and I am sure there are other openings I failed to mention. Make sure you learn your theory in these lines if you plan on playing them!

timeless_thoughts

Thank you bigty

schlagle

The Ruy Lopez Zaitsev variation and many of the french variations (Winawer) come to mind. I like to play these because they force me to understand the position more rather than just look at the board and make solid moves.