It is sensible not to allow it.
Something like this. You play 4.d5 and give up this pawn, probably only temporarily, so that you can develop your pieces comfortably and try to prove that white has wasted a move by going Ng5.
Countering the Fried Liver attack
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Look up the traxler, a Sneaky counter to fried liver. Also look at the hook and reel trap.
Jan 16, 2023
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The traxler is a great weapon against fried liver players. Highly recommend you study it :)
The position in the first diagram in not the fried liver.
Also, it is a very suspicious position where white has 18 pieces for some reason. Also, white made 4 moves and black made only one.
magipi wrote:
The position in the first diagram in not the fried liver.
Also, it is a very suspicious position where white has 18 pieces for some reason. Also, white made 4 moves and black made only one.
sorry, i'm new to the chess diagram lol
Easiest is to play the Guioco Piano 3.Bc5 instead of the two knights and the Queen covers the square. Then if you play Nf6 a move later and they attempt Ng5 a move later you simply castle.
You can also play h6 the anti-fried liver defense which is a suboptimal move but fine for a while until opponents learn to take advantage of tempo losses.
The traxler or ulvestad will get trick wins against people who don't know the refutations. Later on they will stop working. In general relying on tricks is bad for your chess.
The Polerio is the best black can do and a serious answer to the knight attack. It leads to an imbalanced position down a pawn though, so you have to know what you're doing to make use of White's awkward position.
Jan 18, 2023
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No need for the traxler, no need for the anti-fried liver. Simply don't play Nf6 when you know it will hurt you. Also watch out for tricky Ruy López people who can bring the bishop back after Nf6 and perform a delayed fried liver.
jmpchess12 wrote:
Easiest is to play the Guioco Piano 3.Bc5 instead of the two knights and the Queen covers the square. Then if you play Nf6 a move later and they attempt Ng5 a move later you simply castle.
You can also play h6 the anti-fried liver defense which is a suboptimal move but fine for a while until opponents learn to take advantage of tempo losses.
The traxler or ulvestad will get trick wins against people who don't know the refutations. Later on they will stop working. In general relying on tricks is bad for your chess.
The Polerio is the best black can do and a serious answer to the knight attack. It leads to an imbalanced position down a pawn though, so you have to know what you're doing to make use of White's awkward position.
Supet comfortavle for white
Aug 21, 2023
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"dont play Nf6"
"when you know it will hurt you"
Nf6 hurts you?
*checking other lines*
d3 transposes to Bc5 lines; the ones where white doesnt go for the kill
Nc3 is bad
0-0 is bad
c3 is bad
d4 is interesting
evans gambit doesnt exist here
and then we have Ng5
also comparing the traxler to the ulvestad is insane
engine hates traxler more
traxler does much worse at top level and is less common by a bit
and you dont have to memorise 10s of lines which are all incredibly sharp and theory based for the ulvestad (is it a trick opening if there arent "win quick" lines like that? that is theres still a game if white plays suboptimally in the ulvestad but white is DEAD if he plays suboptimally in the traxler; which should make it more of a trick opening)
The Traxler counterattack is the best, my favorite opening overall as well.
Isn't traxler just unsound to bf7?
No, because then Ke7, and if white doesn't get out of there with the bishop you just play h6 and win a piece. Once the bishop leaves you go Rf8, h6, d6..etc and black gets a very easy development.
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How do you counter the Fried Liver Attack? I always end up losing a rook to it because I have a good idea how to use it but not counter it. For reference it’s this: