Dealing with early queen

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bharvey63

Hi folks,

I've noticed that a fair number of ~800 players, instead of trying to develop the conventional way, simply run out with the queen and a bishop and jus start tearing in.

I'm assuming that there's a way to deal with this but I don't know it. I aways seem to do better when people play the way one would expect them to.

I'm not saying this "technique" is wrong, but I'm again gussing that it's a mistake to do so against someone who knows how to deal with it.

SO, that's my question.

Can someone offer some advice as to how to deal with this sort of play?

Thanks,

-B

KingIsLife

Depending on the scenario. If they send the queen all the way to H5 then first defend the pawn you sent out (if it is the one on the king side). Then move pawn at g7 to g6.

If they send queen to F3 then just block it with a knight from g8 to f6 will be sufficient. If they attempt to take out that knight. move pawn to g6. move bishope to g7.

I hope that helped since that is what i do when the opponent tries to do a blitzkrieg on me.

RexGambit
bharvey63 wrote:

Hi folks,

I've noticed that a fair number of ~800 players, instead of trying to develop the conventional way, simply run out with the queen and a bishop and jus start tearing in.

I'm assuming that there's a way to deal with this but I don't know it. I aways seem to do better when people play the way one would expect them to.

I'm not saying this "technique" is wrong, but I'm again gussing that it's a mistake to do so against someone who knows how to deal with it.

SO, that's my question.

Can someone offer some advice as to how to deal with this sort of play?

Thanks,

-B

There are over several different kinds of opening which involve an early development of the queen, but I doubt this is what you are encountering. If they are rated at 800, and they are only using their queen and bishop, the trick is to attack the queen so you may develop naturally. 

Irinasdaddy

If you're playing as white against one of those players, just use 1. d4.  As black use 1. .. e6 to play the French.  Few things would be more disorienting than a player immediately having to scrap their plan completely, especially low-level players, because they rarely have a backup in mind or pay attention to their opponent, choosing instead to stick to their own move system and then figure things out.  

Arutha_19

Develop your minor pieces to places where they attack the queen. That waay you'll develop with tempo

Arutha_19

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/the-patzer-opening-gets-crushed

look at how this guy does it

PsYcHo_ChEsS
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PsYcHo_ChEsS

What Arutha_19 says is correct. Make sure you don't overlook anything and that you have everything defended. Then attack the queen with pawns and minor pieces. The opponent will be left to move the queen around the board, while you gain a huge lead in development.

bharvey63

Thanks for all the replies! Let me digest this...

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bharvey63 wrote:

Hi folks,

I've noticed that a fair number of ~800 players, instead of trying to develop the conventional way, simply run out with the queen and a bishop and jus start tearing in.

I'm assuming that there's a way to deal with this but I don't know it. I aways seem to do better when people play the way one would expect them to.

I'm not saying this "technique" is wrong, but I'm again gussing that it's a mistake to do so against someone who knows how to deal with it.

SO, that's my question.

Can someone offer some advice as to how to deal with this sort of play?

Thanks,

-B

Hey bharvey! I think we face the same problem. Some of my opponents do something like u said. So, I found the best solution for me is watch the queen ATK range, while developing minor pieces when possible, and keep everything guarded like they said! Just don't let the queen stole your piece and found a "Cozy" place in your camp, Good Luck! :)

Oh another 2 things:

1.) Don't rush to chase away the queen. DEVELOP when possible (but stay alert!)

2.) Beware of possible checkmate! Usually signed with piercing bishop behind the queen, especially for early-castling players like us.

Doing above, I usually found my opponent's queen ran out of space and retreat :D!

m_connors

As indicated, attack the Queen (sensibly). This gives you superior development and tempi. (Term for gaining addition moves - time; your opponent wastes time (tempo) every time he is forced to protect the Queen by moving it out of harms way while you gain position by superior development.)

As the Queen is the most powerful/important piece, moving it out too soon is an invitation to disaster. Make your opponents pay, and pay, and pay. If they blunder, they might even lose her. Yeah!  happy.png

benjaminy8

ok

m_connors

Follow up, try playing computer player Nelson. He is programmed to move his Queen out too soon. Nelson is rated at 1300. If you play in a "fun" mode, you can see how each of your moves is rated and if not best, the best is shown. You can even take back really bad moves. (Well any move really, but it's likely the blunders you'll want to redo.)

Play as both Black and White and try several of your favourite opening. Nelson will always move his Queen out too soon, so you can practice how to respond. It's unlikely a "real" 1300 player would ever move the Queen out as early as Nelson. Good luck.

Emara1975

نحن عرب لا نفهم english ترجمو لنا رجاء

Emara1975

او لو وضعتم في تطبيق الشطرنج ميزة الترجمة

RAU4ever

Time is very important in any opening. If you choose to play slow, inefficient moves, like ...a6 or ...h6 or multiple early queen moves, then I should be getting an advantage in the middle game, because more of my pieces will be in a better position to take advantage of the characteristics of the position. For example: if I develop quickly and you don't, my rooks will be on the open file in the middle game, while you're still getting ready to castle. Hence, I'll have the advantage if I survive the opening. 

So what you want to do is this: 

- be aware of tactics. Losing pieces is not the best way to deal with it. But be concrete, you can't afford to be bullied into passivity.
- be efficient: develop pieces only once, don't make unnecessary defensive moves. Develop with tempo on the queen when you can, but don't go out of your way. Remember: your goal is to develop all of your pieces and bide your time. If your move makes sense and gains tempo on their queen, go for it!
- the stronger you get, the more you should be looking closely at the 'threats' your opponent is making. Losing a pawn might actually be good for us, because our pieces will have new open files and our opponent might lose even more time over it. Or there might be immediate tactical problems associated with winning the pawn. Playing for the initiative is not necessarily that easy, however. It usually requires strong tactical vision and a grasp of important strategic concepts, cause otherwise you might find difficulty in maintaining the initiative and knowing when to cash out.