defences like the french/king fianchetto

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TKisDApoop

ok.. so i know a few defences but i dont really have one that i like.. so, im looking through this index of defences and i keep seeing defences where black puts himself in this position:

now, i know that by fainchettoing the bishop you are "indirectly" taking control of the center but, with that knight there, your 2-move bishop is like a log in the water, doing nothing. i have a huge problem with this blockage by the knight and i am looking for someone to tell me something that will ease my mind about playing an defence of this style. there are few defences that can stand on their own two feet (excuse the metaphor/personification), and alot of them are of this position so, please enlighten me on the benefits and advantages of defences like this. i will compile a small list of popular defences that have this position just to show you what defences im missing out on. 

the french, the gurnfeld, king fianchetto, king's Indian,and im sure theres more. plz help!


cheesehat

A book(s) to buy would be Eric Shiller's range on Hypermodern openings.

 

If you don't have the book/dont want the book, simply dont allow the centre to be blocked.

 


DaBear
therobz wrote: cheesehat wrote:

A book(s) to buy would be Eric Shiller's rangThate on Hypermodern openings.

 

If you don't have the book/dont want the book, simply dont allow the centre to be blocked.

 

 


 your bishophas life... but your other one doesnt.


 That is so typical d4.


KillaBeez
Your bishops will open up onto a vicious diagonal eventually.  Openings like the French have a bad bishop, but the bishops can either be traded, the position can be opened up, or Black can have good compensation.
cheesehat
In the above (bad) example, the bishop can be activated easily by moving the knight once more. Moving the same piece twice isnt ALWAYS bad.
TKisDApoop
you are telling me the obvious... it doesnt take a quantum physicist to know that you only need to move the knight to activate the bishop.
BirdsDaWord

There are some other points to the defense that range in long-term plans, but let's first look at the effect of the position with Nf6, g6 and Bg7.

#1 Black is ready to castle.

#2 The knight is at a good square, where it controls central squares.

#3 The bishop indirectly controls the center (a1-h8 diagonal).

#4 Black has created luft (air, or breathing room) for his king.

#5 The bishop can be used to set up threats - i.e. the knight moves attacking the queen, and the bishop attacks a rook.  This is a generic idea, but let's look at it below.

 

You are looking for immediate results.  Check out this opening then, the Gruenfeld.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


riverdanb
I've also seen the Knight played to e7 rather then Nf6. I prefer Nf6,its seems like I capture a few unsuspecting Rooks that way when I move my Knight. My Knight also give's my king side good defense from f6.