Defense against 1.d4 for scandinavian defense player

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MindGrabber
hi I play scandinavian against 1.e4 and most of the games I had my pawns on e6 and c6 similar with caro kan structure. I need some recommends about how to play against 1.d4 I play nimzo indian now
Yigor

Nimzo-Indian is good. peshka.png

opticRED

as a scandi player myself, against 1 d4, I play the Slav (not the semi slav). I also defend the Nimzo indian and Bogo Indian or QGD Ragozin. it really depends on your taste of pawn structures.

opticRED

as a scandi player myself, against 1 d4, I play the Slav (not the semi slav). I also defend the Nimzo indian and Bogo Indian or QGD Ragozin. it really depends on your taste of pawn structures.

Ziggy_Zugzwang

QGA

maathheus

Albin counter gambit is a nice response, will catch most of players out of book and it's a very aggressive response. If white don't know how to react it's very likely they will get in trouble. 

poucin
maathheus a écrit :

Albin counter gambit is a nice response, will catch most of players out of book and it's a very aggressive response. If white don't know how to react it's very likely they will get in trouble. 

Ok but if white plays 2.Nf3?

Robhad
poucin wrote:
maathheus a écrit :

Albin counter gambit is a nice response, will catch most of players out of book and it's a very aggressive response. If white don't know how to react it's very likely they will get in trouble. 

Ok but if white plays 2.Nf3?

Then you resign, since white is obviously very well prepared and has thwarted your fearsome Albin countergambit. 2. Nf3 too strong, FIDE please nerf.

Ziggy_Zugzwang

On a recent thread a repertoire based on the Albin was mooted, and if 2Nf3, then the Stonewall was suggested for black. The idea being that 2Nf3 was sub optimal against this set up. An interesting idea...

SeniorPatzer
BobbyTalparov wrote:

The Slav has a couple variations that will have a similar pawn structure (the so-called Caro-Slav pawn structure).

 That being said, there is nothing wrong with the Nimzo-Indian/QID system.

 

That looks like a very playable game for Black.  Easy development, castle safely on Kingside, and fights for the center.

 

What's not to like?

poucin
SeniorPatzer a écrit :
BobbyTalparov wrote:

The Slav has a couple variations that will have a similar pawn structure (the so-called Caro-Slav pawn structure).

 That being said, there is nothing wrong with the Nimzo-Indian/QID system.

 

That looks like a very playable game for Black.  Easy development, castle safely on Kingside, and fights for the center.

 

What's not to like?

Well, black's set up is fine but if u want to attack, not the good one...

But when someone like scandinavian/Caro Kann structure, it is indeed quite "exciting".

maathheus
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maathheus
poucin wrote:
maathheus a écrit :

Albin counter gambit is a nice response, will catch most of players out of book and it's a very aggressive response. If white don't know how to react it's very likely they will get in trouble. 

Ok but if white plays 2.Nf3?

 

Than I'd try something else, maybe Nf6 or e6

TwoMove

After 5e3 black would play 5...b5, so 5a4 is more typical  with same sort of thing as in diagram.

jonesmikechess

I would also suggest the Stonewall.  Easy to learn and standard middlegame plan.

RussBell
Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:

On a recent thread a repertoire based on the Albin was mooted, and if 2Nf3, then the Stonewall was suggested for black. The idea being that 2Nf3 was sub optimal against this set up. An interesting idea...

This refers to the 1.d4 repertoire for Black presented in "My First Chess Opening Repertoire for Black" by Vincent Moret.

The repertoire features the Albin Counter gambit against 1.d4 d4 2.c4 and the Stonewall Dutch against 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3.  The book does not attempt a comprehensive treatment of variations for these defenses, but instead provides a repertoire based on select dynamic, aggressive lines which emphasize themes more than memorization of myriad variations.  The book is designed to get you started playing these openings quickly, based on understanding of underlying ideas.   If you need to dig deeper into the defenses you will have to consult additional resources which treat them more comprehensively.  The author makes this point in the introduction to the book.

https://www.amazon.com/First-Chess-Opening-Repertoire-Ready/dp/9056917463/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1519269954&sr=1-2&keywords=my+first+chess+opening+repertoire+for

 https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9050.pdf

Interesting also is that the Black repertoire against 1.e4 is the Scandinavian Defense - Portuguese Variation.

ichiro_bloodmoon

I like to mix it up and usually look to get into the Nimzo Indian or Queen's Indian Defense but I also mix it up sometimes with some Slav Defenses, Seni Slave, and Queen's Gambit Declined lines.

ichiro_bloodmoon

ichiro_bloodmoon wrote:

I like to mix it up and usually look to get into the Nimzo Indian or Queen's Indian Defense but I also mix it up sometimes with some Slav Defenses, Seni Slave, and Queen's Gambit Declined lines.

Semi* Slavs*

komsomolez

In NimzoIndian you get other Pawnstructure than in Scandivian. But you can play Semislav. After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Sc3 c6 4.e4 de 5.Sxe4 it is very similar to Scandinavian.

komsomolez

The pawn structure is equal. Black has half-opened d-file, White has half-opened e-file. Both sides have 7 pawns. Black has pawns on e6 and c6 as mentioned by the thread creator.