Effective defense against 1.e4 e5 2.Nf6 whatever 3.Bc4

Hello! Could someone suggest ways to deal for Black against that kind of opening?

Effective defense against:

1.e4 e5
2.Nf6 - whatever but tipically Nf6 3.Bc4

The idea for white is 4. Ng5 attacking the f7 square

I didn't find any good for black, better I get is 1 pawn down.

By the way is that a variation of Ruy Lopez?

by 2.Nf6, do you mean Nf3? I would play 2...Nc6 not Nf6 for black.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 is called the Italian Game.

Pretty sure this is a Petroff defense not Ruy Lopez variation. Seems like Nxe4 is fine with idea of d5 if Nxe5 or Ng5. Black seems good to me.

The diagrammed position is the Boden-Kieseritsky Gambit. A rare transposition from the Petroff (Russian) Defense that can arise from transposition from the Bishop's Opening (1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6)

I get the impression that you meant 2. ...Nc6

Hello! The diagram I published is right. But I think I commited a mistake when writing down the moves. IS as the diagram shows

1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 for white -  Nf6 for black
3.Bc4

Is that a) italian game, or b) Fried Liver or c) Boden-Kieseritsky Gambit or d) Petroff Defense? I'm confused here since 4 different comments points to all different names for that game.

If I understood correctly, jrzmath99, a different game (italian) would be moving the other knight for black in second move. I could try that.

But in case you already did: 2.Nf3 for white -  Nf6 for black, how do you deal with 3. Bc4?

Kingseye Nxe4, looks pretty bad to me for black: after that black will have the knight on Kg5, attacked by both knight and white bishop...

It is the petroff. Not the italian.

Usually a line is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6  and eventually black regains the pawn.

Hey I was right in my Nxe4 idea! Thought it looked fine for black.

berrychess, have you tried looking at those moves in the Game Explorer ?

It will help sort out the names of these openings for you at the very least but also gives you suggested continuations.

365chess.com

If you set up an account, you can access far deeper lines than the standard game explorer here uses.

Game explorer is so cool! Says is Russian Game: Urusov Gambit

The Games Explorer is not exactly informative.

The Urusov gambit is part of the bishop's opening, and this is no urusov.

Really, if white plays Bc4 either as part of the bishop's opening or in response to 2...nf6 in the petroff, this is known as the Boden-Kierseristsky Gambit if white then plays Nc3.  This is what Pfren mentioned earlier.

3.Bc4 in response to the Petroff (2...Nf6) happens a lot in online blitz games, because it looks like a sensible Italian-like move.  But it's really not.  

If you're white, and black plays the petroff, either transpose into the four knights with Nc3, or just play the petroff.  Bite the bullet.  Don't play one of these at best unambitious gambits.

Bc4 on the third move is weak for White in the Petroff. Nxe5 is shown to be best. If you want to play the four knights then that's fine also. Black is probably better after just taking on e4.

I think he means this?

just 0-0

As plutonia mentions, castling is possible after Nc3, but try Ng5 first. There is no going back in the lines after 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 na5 6.Bb5 c6 7.dxc6 bxc6 when white has a ton of moves to try. 

I've always liked black's position on the surface in these positions. It's definitely a theory heavy opening. Not helpful for patzers like us.

Black is equal, both sides should develop quickly.