uh...check out your diagram and get back to us.
Fishing Pole in the Italian Game!
Your best defense against the fishing pole? Just don't take the bait:D
Generally, pushing the h pawn two steps instead of one is a small inaccuracy, so declinging the fishing poll gives the would-be-trapped player a small advantage.
That said, I play the fishing pole when I have the chance to too. :P
We're both newbies, after all...

Hey Venci, here's the line I would play if it was me and you closed the d8-h4 diagonal:

Haha, nice one...but you can't block the diagonal forever. Eventually you will have to return back the piece. Here's an example of how it may continues after the knight moves:

Okay, I agree the game is unclear as far as who is better.



Hi Guys
Roommate Life Master Jack Young showed me the Fishing Pole 11 years ago.
You can learn more at
Youtube
Fishing Pole Chess
or
How To Play Chess Like An Animal
by Anthea Carson and Lynn Trochim
or Formation Attacks by Joel Johnson
or thousands of annotated Fishing Poles at
BrianWallChess@Yahoogroups.com
by the way, Jack Young also plays the Fishing Pole as White like Greco did 400 years ago - Jack calls this the Tombraider -
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Bc5 4 Nc3 Nf6 5 Ng5 0-0 6 d3 h6 7 h4
Fishing
You
This line doesn't work unfortunately: after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4Nf6 4. d3 Bc5 5. O-O Ng4? White plays 6. Bxf7+ Kxf7 7. Ng5+ K-moves followed by Qxg4 and black is down a pawn in a near-lost position. Generally, the fishing pole doesn't work if White's light sqared bishop has a clear shot at f7.

[Event "Europe"]
[Site "Europe"]
[Date "1620.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Greco, Gioacchino"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C54"]
[PlyCount "18"]
[EventDate "1620.??.??"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventRounds "76"]
[EventCountry "ITA"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2000.11.22"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. Ng5 O-O 6. d3 h6 7. h4 hxg5 8. hxg5
Nh7 9. Qh5 Be7 1-0
1620 Greco Fishing Pole with White
I found this sweet game in the Italian Game opening where black unleash the fishing pole bait. :) The fishing pole is very common in the Ruy Lopez, but it can also be arrive in many other opening. You just have to be able to spot it.
White takes the bait and Black fish out the King for a nice checkmate!!!! :)
Questions:
1) Does anybody else have any other explains of the fishing pole in the Italian Game that they can share?
2) What's blacks best defense against the fishing pole?
3) Can the fishing pole work if white castles queen side?