Fool's Mate

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HelloWorld
You know, all of those Blitz Cream attacks (like the 4 move checkmate) are all targetted around the king's side, i mean, if i were to mount a good defense on the king's side, the game is bound to last for a long time, considering that there is no possible way to attack the king until you move away the barrier
Vtan

Which brings up another question....

 

Are opening traps considered good sportsmanship?  Meaning, some consider them rather cheap shots but still above things like fool's mate and scholar's mate.  Supposedly the Ruy Lopez has 30 odd traps in the various lines. 

 

Just want to hear what you guys think. 


HowDoesTheHorseMove
In looking over some games that have been played here, I came across a transposed version. It took four turns instead of the usual two, but ...f6 and ...g5 were both in there, followed by ...Qh5#.
chopra
itaibn wrote:

How can you "try" the fools mate? Isn't it a blunder for the opponent, and not a stategy. And unrelated, here a game I once played



I agree, but if you see the opportunity, you take it! But I agree again, you shouldn't play planning a fool mate from the begining, and I think usually anybody doesn't.


knight2c4
Blunder is a kind word for such foolish play, the above moves are the true fools mate.  Quick ends disappoint me, like scholars mate ect... I do believe that most whom have post on this thread wouldn't ever fall for such trickery in a match, but dang I just can't help trying it sometimes. LOL
frenchduke

this is the quickest checkmate ive ever achieved, its seems to be a variation of fools mate.


csit203
it depends from you right?
Ziryab

From a book published in 1656:

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BronsteinPawn
andy escribió:

Not quite, but a couple of years ago I got to do a four-move checkmate against a player rated 928. (oh and welcome to the Chess.com forums :)

 

Here it is:

 

 

 

Why do I think you are JohnBartholomew's clon from another universe?

BronsteinPawn
Ziryab escribió:

From a book published in 1656:

 

Lol. That pic made me go "awwww".

What book is that?

KholmovDM

I actually used it against someone about a week ago. 

majahitterking
KholmovDM wrote:

I actually used it against someone about a week ago. 

RIP opponent...

manfred_scriba_ms07

I also used it

f4 e6

g4 Dh5#

Ziryab
BronsteinPawn wrote:
Ziryab escribió:

From a book published in 1656:

 

Lol. That pic made me go "awwww".

What book is that?

 

The Royall Game of Chesse-Play (1656) by Francis Beale. It is the oldest published book containing the games of Gioachino Greco. It also contains some interesting social and political discussion about the monarchy and nobility. It was published during Oliver Cromwell's regime and is dedicated to King Charles, who had been beheaded by the religious zealots.

PolarPhoenix

 

Ziryab

Akin to Fools Mate is this game from Chernev's 1000 Best Short Games of Chess.

 

OriginalFly
Who moves a Knight to the a or h file immediately?
wollyhood
knight2c4 wrote:
Agreed, but you would be surprised whom else falls for such trickery.  I've taught all my friends the openings for all quick mates (not to use mind you) but how to identify and counter because if you are caught you're open for a counter.

So this guy has left the building, just wondering if anyone else could answer round about how many super quick mates are there?

wollyhood
Ziryab wrote:

Akin to Fools Mate is this game from Chernev's 1000 Best Short Games of Chess.

 

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nd2 e5 3. dxe5 Ng44. h3?? Ne3

Right well that's two : )

Ziryab
wollyhood wrote:
 

So this guy has left the building, just wondering if anyone else could answer round about how many super quick mates are there?

 

On Black's second move: 4 unique positions (8 move sequences)
On White's third move: 105 unique positions

On Black's third move: 1251 unique positions

https://wismuth.com/chess/statistics-positions.html